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30 Dec 2010, 11:07 am

http://etd.fcla.edu/CF/CFE0003090/Grime ... 005_MA.pdf

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INTROVERSION AND AUTISM: A CONCEPTUAL EXPLORATION OF THE PLACEMENT OF INTROVERSION ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM

The conceptualization of the personality construct of introversion has been problematic since the term’s inception due to the complexity and seemingly self-contradictory nature of the collection of attributes of which it is comprised. To advance the understanding of introversion, I propose that it is a continuous segment of the non-clinical part of the autism spectrum, and that it is not the same as the inverse of extraversion. When introversion and autism are placed on the same continuum, the nature of the relationship of the traits becomes more apparent, and new possibilities are available for exploration of both autism and introversion. This review of literature traces the origins and development of the concept of introversion and places it on the autism spectrum, demonstrating the apparent synonymous nature of the traits despite varying degrees of severity in expression. The current factorial structure of introversion demonstrates how autistic features interact to produce the personality dimension. Other factors, including genetic predisposition, relationships to the clinical and non-clinical symptoms of schizophrenia spectrum expression, and neurological findings that support the correlation will be considered. Finally, suggestions for future research and possible theoretical and empirical implications and applications are explored.



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30 Dec 2010, 2:15 pm

Thanks for that link! Very interesting.



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30 Dec 2010, 2:32 pm

I will have to look at that closely.

While there are possible issues I can see straightway, it COULD resolve the presence in one [to me totally weird] indivisual of introverted and extraverted traits by butting them on separate tracks,



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30 Dec 2010, 3:03 pm

I read part of it and then decided get fired for reading a masters thesis on introversion while at work would be weird. At least it wasn't porn.

It would be interesting to know if the thesis was accepted by her advisers and if she is going to follow up with research of her own.


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30 Dec 2010, 3:08 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
I read part of it and then decided get fired for reading a masters thesis on introversion while at work would be weird. At least it wasn't porn.

It would be interesting to know if the thesis was accepted by her advisers and if she is going to follow up with research of her own.


LOL!! Me too exactly. So I printed it, put it in a folder and stuck a highlighter with the package in my backpack for further reading this weekend. VERY interesting so far.



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30 Dec 2010, 5:43 pm

Have any been over to the INTJ forums?

Someone there couldn't read body language until @ around 35.

Some there speculate the "same", and know that "they" are born without social skills and have to learn it.

I've wondered myself, being INTJ, and there there seems to be a continuum here into introversion.

I'm assuming of course, that said individuals don't stim and can roll with changes easily, and make natural eye contact, though.

They believe they don't fit the entire ASD criteria.



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30 Dec 2010, 6:25 pm

I wonder what such theories say about highly extroverted autistics?


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30 Dec 2010, 7:29 pm

anbuend wrote:
I wonder what such theories say about highly extroverted autistics?


Their special interest/obsession is people?



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30 Dec 2010, 8:06 pm

anbuend wrote:
I wonder what such theories say about highly extroverted autistics?


I suppose by the hypothesis offered, this would no problem. The author is suggesting that introversion is NOT the opposite of extroversion, that they belong on different axis. Thus a person could be autistic and extroverted. This does create the possibility of someone being extroverted and introverted at the same time. That seems problematic.


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30 Dec 2010, 8:44 pm

That's really interesting. I'm pretty introverted, but I like to discuss a few areas. I thought it was a kind of a paradox of sorts.



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30 Dec 2010, 9:09 pm

When I was a kid, people actually called me an "introvert" - as opposed to an "extrovert" - but we had no idea it was real thing.

In any case my AS traits go way beyond that.



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30 Dec 2010, 9:11 pm

Kon wrote:
anbuend wrote:
I wonder what such theories say about highly extroverted autistics?


Their special interest/obsession is people?


I would be one of those aspies. I've been intersted in people as far back as I can remember. Some are big, some are small, some are short, some are tall. We're all different. I love people.


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03 Jan 2011, 6:11 am

That thesis to which the OP linked interests me very much. I have skimmed a few pages and hope to read all of it sometime.

Until two or three years ago I thought all autistic people were introverted.



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03 Jan 2011, 9:24 am

Introversion and Extraversion isn't proven.



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03 Jan 2011, 11:05 am

Plywood wrote:
Introversion and Extraversion isn't proven.


As something can be proven in psychology, I think the introversion/extraversion axis is "proven"; at least, in almost all factor analysis of psychological traits had emerged a dimension more or less equivalent of "introversion/extraversion" (the only exception that I remember is the Heymann-La Senne study[link], who identified the dimensions "emotivity", "activity" and "ressonance", but not "introversion" or "extraversion")