Interested in study on introversion/extraversion by country

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03 Apr 2013, 4:28 am

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I don't know about any such study but the country of your dreams is Finland.


I would be interested to know how commonly Aspergers is diagnosed in Finland, compared to other countries. Any ideas?



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03 Apr 2013, 10:52 am

You're right, Skilpadde, my post sounded like that, too much enthusiasm I guess :lol:



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03 Apr 2013, 10:58 am

Moomingirl wrote:
Krabo wrote:
I don't know about any such study but the country of your dreams is Finland.


I would be interested to know how commonly Aspergers is diagnosed in Finland, compared to other countries. Any ideas?


That would be a wonderful thing to find out. There are tons of people in the U.S. diagnosed with mild Asperger's who don't seem defective upon first sight. I wonder if, in more tolerant countries, you don't find this at all, and everyone diagnosed as aspie is pretty severe, if those who would be diagnosed with mild Asperger's in the U.S. fall within the norms of their culture.

I want to move to a place like this, if it exists.



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03 Apr 2013, 1:19 pm

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There are tons of people in the U.S. diagnosed with mild Asperger's who don't seem defective upon first sight. I wonder if, in more tolerant countries, you don't find this at all, and everyone diagnosed as aspie is pretty severe, if those who would be diagnosed with mild Asperger's in the U.S. fall within the norms of their culture.


I am dubious about the sound of some of the diagnoses in the U.S. If anyone has statistics on numbers / percentages of people diagnosed by country, I would be very interested to see them.

From what I know of Finland, an Aspie could 'blend in' more easily than other countries, as introversion is much more common. I am not sure if there is less Aspergers there, if the whole country is full of Aspies, or if the culture is such that they only would diagnose the more severe cases.

For me, I am always going to be an Aspie, but the appeal of living in Finland would be less stress - no idiots talking to me all the time, asking me about my day while I am trying to buy a loaf of bread - just more peace.

Finland has been my latest special interest for a few months now :D



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03 Apr 2013, 2:33 pm

Moomingirl wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
There are tons of people in the U.S. diagnosed with mild Asperger's who don't seem defective upon first sight. I wonder if, in more tolerant countries, you don't find this at all, and everyone diagnosed as aspie is pretty severe, if those who would be diagnosed with mild Asperger's in the U.S. fall within the norms of their culture.


I am dubious about the sound of some of the diagnoses in the U.S. If anyone has statistics on numbers / percentages of people diagnosed by country, I would be very interested to see them.

From what I know of Finland, an Aspie could 'blend in' more easily than other countries, as introversion is much more common. I am not sure if there is less Aspergers there, if the whole country is full of Aspies, or if the culture is such that they only would diagnose the more severe cases.

For me, I am always going to be an Aspie, but the appeal of living in Finland would be less stress - no idiots talking to me all the time, asking me about my day while I am trying to buy a loaf of bread - just more peace.

Finland has been my latest special interest for a few months now :D


I'm sure aspie kids might be diagnosed in Finland at similar rates since children demonstrate the behaviors more severely. I could be wrong, however. However, it is very possible for highly functional adults such as myself who don't fit cultural norms regarding extraversion, etc. to be diagnosed as having Asperger's or a number of other "personality disorders." Our DSM has several times debated creating an "Introverted Personality Disorder" which would essentially have labeled everyone who isn't an extrovert with a mental illness. Instead, they decided to invent mild Asperger's. lol

The U.S., particularly the South, California, and the Midwest, is a horrible place to live if you're not an extravert, doesn't matter if you're aspie or NT.



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03 Apr 2013, 2:39 pm

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The problem, of course, is having useful skills that would allow one to emigrate to that country. I think I could only work in commonwealth countries, at least until getting a specialty in my field, such as international tax, perhaps.

Otherwise, Finland sounds absolutely lovely. I don't think I would be an aspie there.


Agreed. Not to mention the language issue - I have just started learning Finnish, think it is going to take me some time 8O

I think I would still be an aspie there, just a happy aspie :D



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03 Apr 2013, 2:50 pm

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You may be interested to know that in other countries (at least in Europe - I don't have experience of other places) the stereotype of Americans is of very loud, brash people. I think this is because American celebrities in films and TV behave this way, but although I dislike stereotypes, I have to say that the few Americans I've met in person also fit this stereotype - they seemed to talk at the tops of their voices, gesticulate and move their bodies around a lot while speaking, want to attract the attention of as many people as possible, and generally be extroversion personified. Even their clothes were loud!


Lol! This isn't a totally accurate stereotype, but there's some truth to it. This could explain why I get treated exceptionally well when I go abroad and had a hard time making people in China, Singapore, Malaysia, France, and Germany believe that I was actually American.

I heard the "you don't seem like an American" phrase quite a few times before I actually figured out it was a compliment. :lol: When I learned Chinese, people started saying it in Chinese too!



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05 Apr 2013, 10:44 am

Tyri0n wrote:
Our DSM has several times debated creating an "Introverted Personality Disorder" which would essentially have labeled everyone who isn't an extrovert with a mental illness. Instead, they decided to invent mild Asperger's. lol


Well, Schizoid PD could be considered the "Introverted Personality Disorder".