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 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: How do you think slavery arose?

Posted: Yesterday, 8:12 am 

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In my country which is U.S.A. some people think that we invented it and I don’t believe that Who claims that we invented slavery??? Can point to some examples of people claiming this on the web? European colonists in the Americas certainly did not invent slavery, but did practice a very brutal form...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: How do you think slavery arose?

Posted: Yesterday, 12:33 am 

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I am probably not smart enough to have a staunch opinion on any of that. I am coming at it from a different perhaps inferior angle than you. One thing I would note on your reference of Zen/Buddhism, Postmodernism, etc… in contrast to what I would consider traditional thought is this: The religion I...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: How do you think slavery arose?

Posted: 02 Feb 2023, 12:23 pm 

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My point was that what one person thinks is objective could be subjective given the fact that no one sees reality accurately in the first place. I think it can be true. I think maybe people caught up in the war on drugs think they are being objective. Maybe President Duerte in the Philippines thoug...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: How do you think slavery arose?

Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 12:40 pm 

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That was an interesting expose of it. If subjectivity only exists in the mind I would argue that objectivity exists only in the mind as well. Given that free will is merely an illusion no one can be held responsible for anything. That results in society falling apart. That wasn't what I meant. Subj...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: How do you think slavery arose?

Posted: 01 Feb 2023, 6:45 am 

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Voluntarily entering into servitude as a means of paying a debt is acceptable. Involuntary servitude to pay your debt to society is also acceptable. Servitude that unreasonably and without cause violates the will of the individual is objectively evil. Subjectively in my opinion, the most evil peopl...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: How do you think slavery arose?

Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 7:31 pm 

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Voluntarily entering into servitude as a means of paying a debt is acceptable. Involuntary servitude to pay your debt to society is also acceptable.

Servitude that unreasonably and without cause violates the will of the individual is objectively evil.

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why do we support countries that abuse human rights ?

Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 7:27 pm 

Replies: 16
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This thread is vaguely like the other one about Hitler versus other dictators. You can take many of these examples and write a manual on how to be evil. I do believe the USA is better than any other country out there. But there's no point in denying we have our share of evil within our government an...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why do we support countries that abuse human rights ?

Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 6:57 pm 

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^^^The Vietnam War was really what killed it for the United States. Since then we've acted on the lessons learned from the Vietnam experience. For one, there really was a lot of local support for what the USA initially accomplished in the early stages of the war. Once Saddam was eliminated and a new...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 6:32 pm 

Replies: 34
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Marketing. Meanwhile, if you look at how many deaths the British Royal Family is ultimately responsible for, or whichever dipshits of their time were in charge of the USA/Canada during the ~200 year near complete genocide of ~100 Million indigenous people, or whoever exported white supremacy and th...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 5:56 pm 

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You might say that in the long run, funding the invention of fusion would enable those things anyway. And, fair. But it’s a risk - there is the risk that you don’t actually make a difference, either because it gets invented by someone who would have done it anyway, at roughly the same time, or else...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why do we support countries that abuse human rights ?

Posted: 30 Jan 2023, 5:25 pm 

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Well…exactly what do you want done better? What CAN these countries do better? And I don’t mean a Captain Obvious “just stop sending aid to countries who commit genocide.” I have no problem with selling weapons to other countries, even potentially genocidal ones. Because, to be frank, you don’t real...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 29 Jan 2023, 6:43 pm 

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1. Emancipating blacks without making sure they have a place to go, nobody to care for them. 2. Appointing black officials without the consent of the governed, leading to resentment and violence, not to mention bribery and other corruption 3. Exposing blacks to violence by freeing them, giving them...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 29 Jan 2023, 2:09 pm 

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Good point, Max. I think we should rename this thread DIY Guide To Evil: Some Do’s and Don’ts . In a comparison between Hitler and Stalin, Stalin is the clear winner on longevity. Now you are right, Stalin was “anointed” Lenin’s successor. But Hitler did not lead an overthrow of government the way L...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 28 Jan 2023, 11:46 pm 

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Getting back on track, Soviet communism excelled at creating problems to solve. Find a problem, any problem. Maybe solve sort of half way, but whatever you do, when you solve a problem, make sure that the solution causes more problems on its own. And once you do that tackle those problems one by one...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 28 Jan 2023, 11:18 pm 

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Views: 959


How can non-white people make use of institutional power that favours white people? I don't accept the premise that the institutional power in question exclusively favors white people. I DO accept the premise that the American institution left to do what it was intended to do favors all individuals...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why are other dictators judged less harshly than Hitler?

Posted: 28 Jan 2023, 9:02 pm 

Replies: 34
Views: 959


CRT is too complex a subject and inappropriate to deeply discuss here. I was just simply pulling examples out of a hat for the sake of argument. The relevant issues are fluid but are all always variations on a theme. CRT WAS recently a trending topic. The more the black community comes to see the m...
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