LEAKED: what Hillary really thinks about Bernie supporters

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01 Oct 2016, 10:31 am



Apparently she think Bernie supporters are naive basement dwelling millennials who are unsatisfied with their lives as 'baristas' and want to feel apart of of something. She basically says that Bernie's ideas are unworkable and that she occupies the 'center-right to center-left", she says she doesn't want to make false promises which is funny since she is referred to Bernie's idea for "free college" that way but now she has made some similar pledge so what changed?

Hillary campaign is pretty derisive with the way they refer to other groups. Basement dwellers, deplorables, taco bowls, super predators.



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02 Oct 2016, 9:56 am

No reaction to Hillary calling Bernie supporters a bunch of basement dwelling kids with no futures?



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02 Oct 2016, 10:02 am

What do you expect? She's a plutocrat.


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02 Oct 2016, 10:37 am

Trump's persistent racism is a "speech crime" and doesn't matter.

Clinton saying that Bernie supporters are idealistic, disenfranchised, and young is derisive and somehow damaging?

That is very stupid.



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02 Oct 2016, 11:09 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Trump's persistent racism is a "speech crime" and doesn't matter.

Clinton saying that Bernie supporters are idealistic, disenfranchised, and young is derisive and somehow damaging?

That is very stupid.


That's not what Hillary said.

Hillary and the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie, they ripped off his supporters who donated so much with small donation which Hillary also knocked.

Trump is not a racist and neither are his policy, his 'speech crimes' are imaginary ones made up by the crocodile tears of partisan hacks. They repeats these lies and twist words, how many times have they said that Trump has called Mexicans 'murderers and rapists' even tho that is a 100% false misrepresentation of what he said.

Hillary has spoken derisively of a large percentage of the electorate, she looks down her nose at everybody that is not one of her wealthy donors so if their such an issue with what Trump says then how come Hillary can't live up to her own rules? Remember Rule 4, Rules for Radicals written by Hillary's mentor Saul Alinsky! If Hillary was held to the same standard by the media as Trump is, she'd probably be in prison.



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02 Oct 2016, 12:05 pm

Jacoby wrote:

That's not what Hillary said.

Yes it is, I listened to it.

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Trump is not a racist and neither are his policy,

It's racist to want to ban someone from entering a country on the grounds of religion. It's racist to say that Mexicans are rapists.

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his 'speech crimes' are imaginary ones made up by the crocodile tears of partisan hacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDffWUjcBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-7ISmwAi0

The main people who spin Trump's remarks are those who want him to become President. Most other people just talk about him honestly and fairly.

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how many times have they said that Trump has called Mexicans 'murderers and rapists' even tho that is a 100% false misrepresentation of what he said.

Drug dealers and rapists - it's not much different.

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Hillary has spoken derisively of a large percentage of the electorate,


It's good that Clinton is willing to stand up to racists. It's not politically correct to do it but she doesn't care, she's only interested in doing what's right on this issue.

In the long run, something has to been done about the feelings these people have, but for now calling them out seems sensible. It would be a disaster for America if both candidates felt like they had to appease the worst of the worst. If Trump had any balls then he'd stand up to them too, but he can't, he's too scared it would damage his campaign.

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if their such an issue with what Trump says then how come Hillary can't live up to her own rules? Remember Rule 4, Rules for Radicals written by Hillary's mentor Saul Alinsky! If Hillary was held to the same standard by the media as Trump is, she'd probably be in prison.

For the confused, Rule 4 in Rules For Radicals by Saul Alinsky is "make your opponent play by their own rules".

Clinton has never said or done anything as bad as the things she criticises Trump for.



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02 Oct 2016, 12:31 pm

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It's racist to want to ban someone from entering a country on the grounds of religion.


No, it's not. In much the same way that it wasn't racist to petition parliament and request Trump be barred from entering the UK.

Bigoted and intolerant, perhaps. But Trump's position that Islam is an intolerable ideology is neither racist nor especially controversial.

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It's racist to say that Mexicans are rapists.


But not racist to say that Mexican rapists are rapists.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDffWUjcBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-7ISmwAi0


What did he say that constitutes a crime?

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The main people who spin Trump's remarks are those who want him to become President. Most other people just talk about him honestly and fairly.


That says more about your own leanings than anyone else's.

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Drug dealers and rapists - it's not much different.


Specifically referring to many of those who cross the border illegally, citing border patrol guards as his source and with the caveat that he's certain some of the illegals are good people. The most he's guilty of is exaggeration in his rhetoric.

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It's good that Clinton is willing to stand up to racists. It's not politically correct to do it but she doesn't care, she's only interested in doing what's right on this issue.


But she's not standing up to "racists", she's applying the label indiscriminately for political gain. In other words, she's doing much the same as Trump.

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In the long run, something has to been done about the feelings these people have, but for now calling them out seems sensible. It would be a disaster for America if both candidates felt like they had to appease the worst of the worst. If Trump had any balls then he'd stand up to them too, but he can't, he's too scared it would damage his campaign.


Antagonising and demonising citizens with legitimate concerns is usually career suicide for politicians. Just ask David Cameron.

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Clinton has never said or done anything as bad as the things she criticises Trump for.


In the words of The Dude:

Yeah? Well, uh, that's just like your opinion, man.



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02 Oct 2016, 1:13 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Jacoby wrote:

That's not what Hillary said.

Yes it is, I listened to it.

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Trump is not a racist and neither are his policy,

It's racist to want to ban someone from entering a country on the grounds of religion. It's racist to say that Mexicans are rapists.

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his 'speech crimes' are imaginary ones made up by the crocodile tears of partisan hacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDffWUjcBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-7ISmwAi0

The main people who spin Trump's remarks are those who want him to become President. Most other people just talk about him honestly and fairly.

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how many times have they said that Trump has called Mexicans 'murderers and rapists' even tho that is a 100% false misrepresentation of what he said.

Drug dealers and rapists - it's not much different.

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Hillary has spoken derisively of a large percentage of the electorate,


It's good that Clinton is willing to stand up to racists. It's not politically correct to do it but she doesn't care, she's only interested in doing what's right on this issue.

In the long run, something has to been done about the feelings these people have, but for now calling them out seems sensible. It would be a disaster for America if both candidates felt like they had to appease the worst of the worst. If Trump had any balls then he'd stand up to them too, but he can't, he's too scared it would damage his campaign.

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if their such an issue with what Trump says then how come Hillary can't live up to her own rules? Remember Rule 4, Rules for Radicals written by Hillary's mentor Saul Alinsky! If Hillary was held to the same standard by the media as Trump is, she'd probably be in prison.

For the confused, Rule 4 in Rules For Radicals by Saul Alinsky is "make your opponent play by their own rules".

Clinton has never said or done anything as bad as the things she criticises Trump for.


Religion is not the same as race and Trump, as a sovereign nation we have the right to decide who gets to come to this country and who doesn't. there is a real security risk. Trump didn't call Mexicans 'rapists and murderers', he said that Mexico was sending illegals that were 'rapists and murderers' over our border which is true and most of them at this point aren't even Mexican but rather Central American who Mexico itself is exceedingly tough towards. This is a huge huge purposeful misrepresentation of what Trump said and I'm sure you know this, making the implication that you are making would be saying that all illegal immigrants in this country are Mexican and that all Mexicans in this country are illegal immigrants which is obviously not the case.

Your country also arrests people for insulting the prophet online and will be having hundreds of ISIS fighters returning shortly so I do not care what your parliament has to say about Trump(a tune that will be soon changing) as they can't keep their own problems in order. "Hate speech" in your country is a joke! A literal thought police!

Hillary doesn't speak up to anybody, she goes where the money and votes are. She hates racists and sexists so much that she banked rolled her foundation from donations from the most backward countries on Earth. Can you defend one thing she did as Secretary of State? Hillary insults ordinary Americans, calls the worst names in the 'progressive' lexicon, and uses the standard SJW defense of accusing anything and everybody remotely critical of her as being racist/sexist/etc. We've seen this for 8 years now with Obama and we're tired of it!

Hillary has done much much MUCH worse things than Donald has ever been accuses of, that's a real laugher. :lol:

Fiskers I think are damned to deepest circle of hell by the way



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02 Oct 2016, 1:18 pm

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It's racist to want to ban someone from entering a country on the grounds of religion.


No, it's not. In much the same way that it wasn't racist to petition parliament and request Trump be barred from entering the UK.

Bigoted and intolerant, perhaps. But Trump's position that Islam is an intolerable ideology is neither racist nor especially controversial.

That isn't Trump's position. Trump wanted to ban Muslims from entering America. (In any case, the notion that Islam is a single ideology is obviously wrong)

Anyway, it rather depends on your definition of racism. If you use a definition which includes discrimination against religious groups, then yeah, it's racist.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDffWUjcBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-7ISmwAi0


What did he say that constitutes a crime?

"Speech crime" is Jacoby's phrase. He uses it as a parallel to "thought crime".

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It's good that Clinton is willing to stand up to racists. It's not politically correct to do it but she doesn't care, she's only interested in doing what's right on this issue.


But she's not standing up to "racists"[/quote]
'Course she is. Trump has support from huge numbers of racists, and Clinton stood up to them.

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In the long run, something has to been done about the feelings these people have, but for now calling them out seems sensible. It would be a disaster for America if both candidates felt like they had to appease the worst of the worst. If Trump had any balls then he'd stand up to them too, but he can't, he's too scared it would damage his campaign.


Antagonising and demonising citizens with legitimate concerns is usually career suicide for politicians. Just ask David Cameron.[/quote]
You're not familiar with David Cameron's political career then. Career suicide was trying to appease Eurosceptic backbenchers. If he hadn't offered the referendum then he'd still be PM. If he'd allowed 16 year olds to vote then he'd still be PM. There's a good chance it will also end Theresa May's career when she crashes the economy and loses the subsequent election.



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02 Oct 2016, 1:24 pm

You somehow are fine with Trump saying all the racist and sexist comments, but when Hillary says something.. its now a big deal. Riiight. Isnt that hypocritical?

Oh thats right according to you Jacoby- Trump is never wrong and its fine because he's not Hillary, your enemy. So you can easily bash Hillary at any chance, but Trump is off limits. The media is just smearing him (which you've claimed in many posts). Hillary has done worse things according to you, so Trump's stuff is just fine. :roll:

I've said it before and I'll say it again- Trump and his supporters generally are the same kind of people- greedy racist sexist crooks that bully people to help build their egos. When something bad about Trump is mentioned, its generally derailed into a comment such as "but Hillary is worse", "you are lying!", "the media is lying!" and so on, even when there is clear facts to back it up. I'm not saying everything bad about Trump is true- but a lot of it has been proven as fact. His nonsense of "I'm being sarcastic" (and other similar excuses to attempt to defuse matters) can only go so far. We are voting on a president, not a comedian. Remember that.



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02 Oct 2016, 2:08 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
It's racist to want to ban someone from entering a country on the grounds of religion.


No, it's not. In much the same way that it wasn't racist to petition parliament and request Trump be barred from entering the UK.

Bigoted and intolerant, perhaps. But Trump's position that Islam is an intolerable ideology is neither racist nor especially controversial.

That isn't Trump's position. Trump wanted to ban Muslims from entering America. (In any case, the notion that Islam is a single ideology is obviously wrong)

Anyway, it rather depends on your definition of racism. If you use a definition which includes discrimination against religious groups, then yeah, it's racist



Muslims aren't a race, they followers of Islam, they're Asian, black, Arab, white, Central American,etc.

Not liking people based on their religion is religious discrimination or religious intolerance

Racism is the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

See you want to define raisins as "anything I want it to be so I can slander people."
But welcome to the world of language where words have defined meanings, and there's terms for different actions and things, you can't change that, it was decided by majority to mean something, start changing that and language fall apart, all a language is is muturally aggred meaning in words, otherwise words are just odd sounds we make

Why you and others won't call it religious intolerance, simple, the left is extremely religious intolerant of Christian's , so they can't say being religious intolerant is bad because then they'd be bad and they can't be. Ad no that's impossible.

No i dont know if you're just repeating said nonsense or if your actively supporting it I'd hope the first. But racism only implies to descrimation based on race. Sexism likewise only implies to descrimination based on gender

Say a guy likes Blake people. But thinksnwomen are below men and shouldn't work. He'd be sexist not racist, but if he thought women were equal but thinks blacks shouldn't be allowed near white people he'd be racist.

However the left would call someone who says their favorite color isn't black racist. Or rather they call anyone who disagrees with them racist.

"I don't think we should raise taxes to pay for more education "
"You're a racist"

This kind of nonsense is calling wolf. It's only making racism less legit, which then makes it harder for cases of actual racism to be seen and fixed. Same with sexism.

Like that one crazy lady claimed"if you look hard enough everything is sexist everything is racism" crazy lady.



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02 Oct 2016, 2:12 pm

No since it is your side that champions speech crimes not Trump, Trump opposes political correctness while Hillary wants to encode it into law. It is hypocritical for Hillary to run her mouth about huge swaths of people when her whole campaign is based on Trump's decorum, attacking Hillary discredits her criticisms so it's a perfectly legitimate issue to raise.

The reality is that she is much worse than Trump in all aspects and projects all criticism away from her to minor quite frankly stupid distractions. Hillary has a woman problem? Dig up every interaction Trump has had with the opposite sex over the last 40 years. Hillary's Clinton Foundation issues? Attack Trump's charity. Hillary won't release her emails or speeches from Goldman Sachs? Attack Trump for not releasing his tax return. Nevermind the dodos out there that apparently don't understand what is actually shown on a tax return so we have this narrative about WHAT IS HE HIDING? Tax returns don't show you someone's net worth but rather how much declared income they have in any given year. Mind you, Hillary has also made a cartoon frog a campaign issue by the way but perhaps this isn't publicized overseas so maybe it's an issue of ignorance because I don't think you know how ludicrous her campaign is.

Trump's position is the ban immigration from nations "compromised by terrorism", he is not advocating a total ban on Muslims. His "sexist" comments are irrelevant, it's not like he's a multiple time over rapist and sexual assaulter of women like Bill Clinton. Hillary used intimidation to keep Bill's victims quiet, criminals like this are fit for the big house not the White House.

Trump is right on trade, he's right on illegal immigration, he's right on foreign policy, and the deviations are not enough to make me think otherwise because there will not come another opportunity to overthrow the establishment political order like this again in our lifetime. Trump winning would be a coup against the globalists, against the PC police, against the forces that wish to erase our nations and cultures forever. If 'multiculturalism' is so good then how come we are not allowed to have pride and preserve our culture? You are infected with the the disease white guilt and I have no interest in atoning or feeling sorry for things I had no part of. Do you folks hold minorities to same standards as whites? I really doubt it, you have a 'white man's burden' mentality and think you can 'civilize' people's with your very presence which is some bizarro world version of white supremacy. You won't admit this of course but that's how I perceive your views.



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02 Oct 2016, 3:50 pm



Such a terrible racist Trump for being an honored guest of at an annual conference for the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition in 98 and 99 for his commitment minority hiring in corporate America. Funny how things change when you start really challenging the system...



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02 Oct 2016, 3:55 pm

You forgot she also happily defended a rapist knowing he did it and laughed about it



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02 Oct 2016, 4:01 pm

The Walrus,

Looks like Jacoby, just like his hero Trump, is going with his gut feeling rather than actually verifying the facts. This is why Trump often gets so many facts wrong.

As for me, I can't check the video because I can't have 2 voices going at once.


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02 Oct 2016, 4:19 pm

Jacoby just proved my point once again. I was mentioning flaws of Trump but he didn't mention them much, he instead changed the subject to the Clintons. Ignoring Trumps flaws just to claim Clintons are "worse". That crap doesn't make Trump's flaws go away.

This behavior is sickening and its what Trump does all the time.