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29 Jan 2022, 7:50 am

This is why people should never trust someone simply because they are an authority figure.

There are plenty of deranged, downright evil people in positions of power.

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular - just a general warning for disabled folk.

If you think something is wrong with the treatment you receive as a patient - challenge it, every time. Doctors are not infallible & they are only as good as their moral character and the system that they work within.

If the system they work within has been bought into by a corporation, they might have their figurative hands tied to give you treatment you don't need, for example.

https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/harold-shipman-death-how-died-when-date-what-happened-killer-caught-666140


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29 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm

Hmmm.....Harold Shipman - he used to operate in a district just seven or eight miles down the road from where I now live. He was my uncle's GP in the 1980s and 1990s. My uncle died of natural causes, by the way.

About fifteen years ago I went to the Manchester Royal Eye Hospital to be treated for a condition called Anterior Uveitis, a form of iritis. I had been successfully treated for this at other hospitals in the past with a drug called Maxidex (Dexamethasone). However, the doctor (one of the very senior ones) put me on Predforte, which I'd never used before, and which proved completely ineffective in my case. Despite the fact that the condition of the eye deteriorated rapidly over the next three weeks or so (I lost most of the vision), this doctor insisted on continuing with the Predforte, and said that he could always give me a subconjunctival injection as a second line of defence. Believe me, you really don't want an injection of a massive dose of steroids and mydriatics directly into your eye if it can possibly be avoided.

I ended up going to a hospital closer to home, where the doctor who saw me put me immediately onto Maxidex. There was a 75% improvement in the eye within 48 hours, and the inflammation had virtually cleared up completely within a week. I wondered at the time whether the Manchester Eye Hospital had business links with the manufacturers of Predforte, as it was otherwise difficult to understand why they insisted on me using that product, and refused to switch me to one which was known to work in my case.

My local hospital now no longer has an eye department. I'm quite worried that in future I might be reliant on the Manchester Eye Hospital.


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29 Jan 2022, 10:14 pm

The few times I do see doctors. I challenge them from start to finish. It's pretty much impossible to correct a doctor, though, now matter how articulate you are. I remember this guy.


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29 Jan 2022, 10:25 pm

theprisoner wrote:
The few times I do see doctors. I challenge them from start to finish. It's pretty much impossible to correct a doctor, though, now matter how articulate you are. I remember this guy.


Yep. They just go ahead with whatever they have in mind, regardless of a patients' wishes, much of the time.


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29 Jan 2022, 10:31 pm

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Hmmm.....Harold Shipman - he used to operate in a district just seven or eight miles down the road from where I now live. He was my uncle's GP in the 1980s and 1990s. My uncle died of natural causes, by the way.

About fifteen years ago I went to the Manchester Royal Eye Hospital to be treated for a condition called Anterior Uveitis, a form of iritis. I had been successfully treated for this at other hospitals in the past with a drug called Maxidex (Dexamethasone). However, the doctor (one of the very senior ones) put me on Predforte, which I'd never used before, and which proved completely ineffective in my case. Despite the fact that the condition of the eye deteriorated rapidly over the next three weeks or so (I lost most of the vision), this doctor insisted on continuing with the Predforte, and said that he could always give me a subconjunctival injection as a second line of defence. Believe me, you really don't want an injection of a massive dose of steroids and mydriatics directly into your eye if it can possibly be avoided.

I ended up going to a hospital closer to home, where the doctor who saw me put me immediately onto Maxidex. There was a 75% improvement in the eye within 48 hours, and the inflammation had virtually cleared up completely within a week. I wondered at the time whether the Manchester Eye Hospital had business links with the manufacturers of Predforte, as it was otherwise difficult to understand why they insisted on me using that product, and refused to switch me to one which was known to work in my case.

My local hospital now no longer has an eye department. I'm quite worried that in future I might be reliant on the Manchester Eye Hospital.


It is very common for patients to switch around hospitals or GP surgeries on the NHS because of a lack of appropriate care for patients.

The NHS is awful in many respects.


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29 Jan 2022, 10:32 pm

Healthcare should be free in my opinion, but that doesn't mean it has to be terrible. The NHS is terrible, in its current form.


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30 Jan 2022, 12:48 pm

Surgeons, are in the 5th place of the top ten list of the most professions pursed and performed by psychopatic people.
I had this info watching a youtube channel video named Psychiatry online very famous in my Country. The webinar in question was "the evolutive basis of psychopaty" by Dott. Alfonso Troisi. Anyway, surgeons for the most people are an ancor point of trustness and when I heard this my arms fell, even if thinking well on this it did not surprise me.
People who study medicine must be strong and resilient about seeing extreme things as blood and other terrible ones so eve if it could be unexpected, being psychopatic as surgeons or as doctors in general, maybe, it is not so unsual.
People like them have all the necessary charateristics to perform as good as well even if under stress.



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30 Jan 2022, 1:17 pm

It is extremely hard to find a good doctor, I have found and been under the knife so many times, I can hardly remember now. Been through multiple serious accidents some , where they actually gave up on me , even being able to be anything but a vegetable and spend the rest of my life in a wheelchair. That was over 35 years ago .
And only recently am having to use a cane. And only now because the original repair on a badly broken leg was done in a less than satisfactory manner . Am also seeing that many doctors are not willing to use current technology and knowledge in treating their patients. Even if I tell them about it, It seems genuinely like their intent is to make you a dependent medical patient for your entire life. Dentist can be similar , even their lower ranking staff . Seem to be on board with these behaviors. :(


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30 Jan 2022, 8:19 pm

I remember that guy from the British documentary series, The World's Most Evil Killers.


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30 Jan 2022, 8:23 pm

I remember when the story was on the news. ITN. BBC etc. And subsequent documentaries.


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26 Apr 2022, 4:46 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
It is very common for patients to switch around hospitals or GP surgeries on the NHS because of a lack of appropriate care for patients.

The NHS is awful in many respects.


Do you have figures to back that up? What proportion of NHS patients deliberately change GPs because of poor care, for example?

The NHS can be awful, but that's the exception rather than the rule.

It is semi-privatised and that seems to be slowly turning into a "worst of both worlds" rather than best, through poor leadership and structure, an obsession with very specific targets rather than overall patient care, and under-funding. But despite all that, it still gets a lot of things right.

Mental health care is the poor cousin in all of this, because the system is set up to reward tangible results with more funding. That makes chronic health conditions unappealing to the secretly-private-but-publicly-NHS surgeries and hospitals, as there's no easy measure of success when treating people over the long term, and without cure. What does success look like, when you're basically doing preventative and mitigation work? With things like psychotherapy it's also possible to spend a lot of money without really knowing whether it's doing any good at all.

That's anathema to the bean-counters, but that's precisely why profit alone is useless at getting a good quality health service. As America keeps demonstrating. The NHS is still a much better system overall, but it's being steered in a dangerous direction.



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27 Apr 2022, 5:08 am

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