Why does Turkey still deny the Armenian Genocide ?

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24 Aug 2021, 7:07 am

I am surprised that the UK doesn't still officially recognise the genocide and only this year the US officially recognised it for the first time. I don't know its because Turkey has generations that grown over more than 100 years unable to acknowledge it and come to terms with it and worried that its a stain on their pride as a country.



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24 Aug 2021, 7:50 am

Probably because they're like the folks who believe in Q-Anon.

Facts staring them in the face will not sway them.



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24 Aug 2021, 9:19 am

Because legally speaking, discussing the truth is considered 'insulting Turkishness'.


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26 Aug 2021, 2:52 pm

Nationalism.

The state mandates that you not criticize the actions of the Turkish state or its founders. Do not criticize Ataturk. Do not mention Turkish atrocities in their war of independence. Do not criticize Turkish state treatment of ethnic and religious minorities: Greeks, Armenians, and *especially* Kurds.


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26 Aug 2021, 4:09 pm

The ongoing situation in the present day with another ethnic minority, the Kurds, probably has something to do with it. If they fess up to wronging one group it would create a precedent for acknowleging wronging the other group.



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26 Aug 2021, 4:36 pm

I think it's a sort of national cognitive dissonance kind of thing, people have a really hard time acknowledging that they might be the bad guy, and the brain will perform some amazing mental gymnastics to avoid it.


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26 Aug 2021, 8:30 pm

Dox47 wrote:
I think it's a sort of national cognitive dissonance kind of thing, people have a really hard time acknowledging that they might be the bad guy, and the brain will perform some amazing mental gymnastics to avoid it.

^This

States built on genocide are going to be populated by people who either forget or rationalize that genocide.


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30 Aug 2021, 2:14 pm

Because... watch this and you’ll understand why, it has english subtitles.


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30 Aug 2021, 2:25 pm

roronoa79 wrote:

States built on genocide are going to be populated by people who either forget or rationalize that genocide.


Kinda like the USA, no?


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30 Aug 2021, 2:30 pm

King0fSpades wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:

States built on genocide are going to be populated by people who either forget or rationalize that genocide.


Kinda like the USA, no?


Or Canada. :nerdy:


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30 Aug 2021, 2:32 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:

States built on genocide are going to be populated by people who either forget or rationalize that genocide.


Kinda like the USA, no?


Or Canada. :nerdy:


Or Australia :nerdy:


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30 Aug 2021, 2:52 pm

And let's not forget the countries currently committing ethnic cleansing while the so called "free world" looks the other way. Like China and Israel. :nerdy:


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31 Aug 2021, 9:58 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:

States built on genocide are going to be populated by people who either forget or rationalize that genocide.


Kinda like the USA, no?


Or Canada. :nerdy:


Both, IMO.


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01 Sep 2021, 2:46 pm

King0fSpades wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:

States built on genocide are going to be populated by people who either forget or rationalize that genocide.


Kinda like the USA, no?

Exactly. I started listing examples but honestly the list started going on for too long, and I wouldn't want to exclude anyone lol.
USA, Canada, (almost any country in the Americas honestly), Russia, China, Japan, Serbia, the UK, France, Australia, New Zealand-- see what I mean?


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