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25 May 2021, 3:18 am

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Tulsi Gabbard becoming a vanguard for white racists? she must be the highest profile member of QAnon to have infliltrated the democrat party.


Tulsi Gabbard has both Samoan and European Ancestry. She is the first Hindu member of Congress. She converted to Hinduism as a teen.

Not the stereotype you pictured.


You may be surprised what motivates this woman
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tul ... list-modi/

She is a disgrace to hinduism



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25 May 2021, 6:11 pm

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Tulsi Gabbard becoming a vanguard for white racists? she must be the highest profile member of QAnon to have infliltrated the democrat party.


Tulsi Gabbard has both Samoan and European Ancestry. She is the first Hindu member of Congress. She converted to Hinduism as a teen.

Not the stereotype you pictured.


You may be surprised what motivates this woman
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tul ... list-modi/

She is a disgrace to hinduism

Tulsi Gabbard is politically Atypical for America. The article suggests religious bigotry not white racism.

As for QAnon the rumors are based on her criticism of the film ‘Cuties’.
It Would Appear That Tulsi Gabbard Is Peddling QAnon-Approved Conspiracy Theories on Main
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Has Tulsi Gabbard seen Cuties? I’m assuming that she has, considering how she said that the film, released this past week on Netflix, is nothing more than “child porn” sure to “fuel the child sex-trafficking trade.” Seems like a pretty wild thing to accuse a movie of being slash doing if you haven’t even seen it.

In case you’re not familiar, Cuties is a French coming-of-age drama directed and written by filmmaker Maïmouna Doucouré about a Senegalese immigrant girl in Paris who joins a twerking dance team made up of other girls in her neighborhood. In an interview with Shadow & Act deputy editor Trey Mangum, Doucouré explained that her film is “very much about the hypersexualization and objectification of young girls.” Most critics who have seen Cuties, which won an award at Sundance earlier this year, seem to agree, calling it a good, if not always subtle, examination of how girls navigate a society that sexualizes them from a young age.

Since August, however, the feature has received a lot of criticism for allegedly sexualizing its young stars. A lot of the backlash probably has to do with the truly sh***y marketing materials cooked up by Netflix for the film’s stateside release, The Verge reports, including a poster that shows the dance team members posing seductively in skimpy performance outfits—a visual that, within the context of the film, is supposed to make the viewer uncomfortable, Variety critic Amy Nicholson noted in her review.

Anyway, the Cuties backlash, which has fed into preexisting conspiracy theories peddled by fringe group QAnon about how Hollywood is secretly a pedophile ring, has ballooned, sucking in opponents from all sides of the political spectrum.

Based on this describing her as a QAnon infiltrator while consistent with American political discourse is quite the stretch. QAnon did not invent “exposing perverts” as a political tactic. Unless somebody finds info that she expects or expected Trump to come back because he exposed a democrat child sex ring this is same old, same old. QAnon “celebrating” Gabbard’s “expose” sounds like a desperate attempt to stay relevant after their predictions were repeatedly wrong.

If she is an infiltrator she is a bad one considering the results of the primaries. If you are still not convinced compare her “influence” on the dems with QAnon’s influence on the other party.


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25 May 2021, 7:00 pm

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Well she can't hate white people if she's married to one.

Which is as logical as saying Donald Trump can't hate diet coke if her drinks the stuff. Point is nobody cares (same with whether Tulsi is married to a white man)


I was using the same logic people use about the spa shooter.



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25 May 2021, 7:36 pm

A rabid Zionist complaining about woke mobs, despite Zionists being notorious for doxxing, harassing, and destroying anyone who even so much as utters the phrase "free Palestine".

LMAO!! !


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25 May 2021, 10:31 pm

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Tulsi Gabbard is politically Atypical for America. The article suggests religious bigotry not white racism.
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Not sure what you are talking about? Tusli Gabbard accused the mayor of being "anti-white", what has that got to do with religion?

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Has Tulsi Gabbard seen Cuties? I’m assuming that she has, considering how she said that the film, released this past week on Netflix, is nothing more than “child porn” sure to “fuel the child sex-trafficking trade.” Seems like a pretty wild thing to accuse a movie of being slash doing if you haven’t even seen it


I was being tongue in cheek because if you look at her platform (pro-military, pro-guns, pro-white, sympathetic to Trump and anti-art (she calls cuties pedophilia), pro-life etc) I could go on...she fits the mold of a MAGA or QAnon than a democrat



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25 May 2021, 11:28 pm

Well the thing about the woke community I don't understand is, why did this woke generation become so huge. I don't think this many people in the world, have in their good hearts of hearts to play robin hood to society and try to fight for what they think is right.

I think that their motivation has to be self serving to some degree, and what are they really trying to get out of it, or what's their angle?



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25 May 2021, 11:40 pm

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Well the thing about the woke community I don't understand is, why did this woke generation become so huge.


I am sure old conservative men said the same thing about social activism in the 1960s. History repeating itself.



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25 May 2021, 11:42 pm

Oh okay. Well what's the angle though still, if anyone knows?



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25 May 2021, 11:45 pm

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Oh okay. Well what's the angle though still, if anyone knows?


Young people who aren't young republicans generally are empathetic to the struggles of the oppressed



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25 May 2021, 11:52 pm

But when woke people make a stink about how they want to do things like censor old scenes in movies, and things like that, that's not fighting for the oppressed at all. No one is oppressed from seeing things in old Disney movies, that woke people are trying to cancel. That's not real oppression. That's just being overly materialistic among many other things.

I don't get how people can associate that with being oppressed. I mean if young people of today thing that censoring movies and media is battling oppression, they have no clue what real oppression is.



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15 Jun 2021, 11:49 pm

*Don’t Let the Backlash Against Critical Race Theory Become a Victim of Its Own Success by Noah Rothman for Commentary

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Before it was “Critical Race Theory” (CRT) in the popular culture, it was a constellation of vaguely academic concepts that confused bigotry with enlightenment. It was intersectionality—a thought experiment dressed up as scholarship that led its adherents to think about race and gender in terms of stereotypes. It was “the right to be believed,” which substituted gender for evidence sufficient to convict alleged criminals. It was modern social justice, the theory that enlightened institutions must be empowered to take economic and social goods away from some and distribute them to others based on accidents of birth.

All these concepts should sound familiar to conservatives because we’ve been engaged in ideological combat with them since long before they were subsumed under the general heading of “CRT.” This vogue academic concept—one that critically examines how racial dynamics have influenced the evolution of our institutions and prescribes illiberal methods for combatting racism’s legacy—feels like it crept up on the culture almost overnight and is now all but unassailable.

Within a bewilderingly short timeframe, this decades-old theory migrated out of identity-studies departments on campuses and into public life. All of a sudden, taxpayer-funded institutions were forcing their white employees to endure struggle sessions examining their “internalized racial superiority” and to confess to their racism or be accused of “denial.” The Biden administration began doling out largess from the treasury in explicitly discriminatory ways in violation of the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. And children were forced to assume their parents’ anxieties: classifying themselves as nondescript members of racial, religious, gender/sex-based tribes, confessing their historical contributions to oppressive social structures, and viewing themselves as helplessly beset by the forces of history.

The ubiquity of this idea contributes to the illusion that it is indomitable. But it is not. The fight against the amalgam of ugly concepts we call CRT has given rise to a potent public backlash. And yet, instead of welcoming that development, the prosecutors of this noble campaign have succumbed to an irrational fatalism that is leading them to risk short-circuiting the very backlash they helped bring about.

In Republican-led states and municipalities across the country, lawmakers are applying the heavy hand of government to enforce the suppression of CRT in the classroom. The statutory language varies. In Oklahoma, “no teacher shall require or make part of a course that one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex,” which is facially unobjectionable. In Tennessee, educators are prohibited from “promoting division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class, or class of people,” which is so broad that it could conceivably ban criticism of the very ideology it seeks to anathematize. Arizona has gone so far as to levy hefty fines against teachers who violate the proscription on certain forms of speech with which the political right disagrees.

School board meetings are overflowing with outraged parents who, having emerged from their mid-pandemic hibernation, are outraged by the dogma that overtook their children’s schools. Local elections in which CRT is a hinge issue have concluded in the theory’s definitive repudiation. Democratic consultants worry aloud that their party’s adherence to these fringe ideas alienates the very minority voters on whom their electoral ascendency depends. A recent public-opinion survey found that three-quarters of respondents are either “somewhat opposed” or “strongly opposed” to teaching the tenets of CRT’s “white privilege” theory in schools.

But some on the right would sacrifice this emerging consensus in favor of heavy-handed edicts that risk running afoul of the same legal conventions that CRT advocates so recklessly flout.

The statutory bans on indoctrination in the classroom come from popularly elected lawmakers who are beholden to electorates from which they derive their authority. We must assume the right doesn’t believe this essential liberal covenant is sufficient; the forces of cultural reaction must be gifted a hammer with which they can bludgeon their opponents.

How else do we anathematize an idea but through the process of convincing the political coalition that subscribes to it that the idea and its advocates are a hindrance to their pursuit of political power? These bans will have the effect of strengthening the left’s attachment to CRT in more populous urban areas and in colleges where the right cannot police or resist the mechanisms used to enforce CRT’s diktats. This ideology won’t be evaluated on its merits—a level of scrutiny the theory cannot withstand. It will become just another instrument of deterrence in our endless cultural cold war. If this becomes a game of raw numbers, that’s a game the right will lose. It’s outnumbered. The force of logic and moral urgency in this campaign is on the right’s side, but not if it adopts the left’s tactics in its pursuit.

In a contest of competing illiberalisms, illiberalism wins.


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16 Jun 2021, 1:43 am

Noah Rothman's arguments are pure hyperbole with no substance.
All this stems from obnoxious parents who are Trump supporters making the rather bold (and stupid) claim that their children's textbooks contain critical race theory.

Yet, Collier County Public Schools says those books have nothing to do with critical race theory.

A school district official pushed back on these claims of pushing politics in the classroom.

“There is no evidence of critical race theory in this resource or any of the HMH Florida inter-reading student materials, teacher materials or any ancillary materials,” they said.

School board member Stephanie Lucarelli agrees with this sentiment. “After going through all these texts and having four kids in our schools as well, anything in these texts was not, you know, a problem for me.”
https://www.winknews.com/2021/06/07/par ... ce-theory/

Pathetic...



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16 Jun 2021, 11:47 am

One thing about the woke generation I do not understand is, is that it seems to have only caught on in English speaking nations, such as US, UK, Canada, Australia, etc.

But nations that do not speak English haven't seem to have caught onto it as much. I cannot stand movies coming out of the US or British TV now, because of all the woke stuff in them, but if you watch European and Asian movies, they are pumping out stories, with no woke politics in them. And Latin American movies haven't seen to have caught on to woke so far either. So it seems that it's only an English speaking nation thing so far, unless I am wrong?



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16 Jun 2021, 4:48 pm

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One thing about the woke generation I do not understand is, is that it seems to have only caught on in English speaking nations, such as US, UK, Canada, Australia, etc.

But nations that do not speak English haven't seem to have caught onto it as much. I cannot stand movies coming out of the US or British TV now, because of all the woke stuff in them, but if you watch European and Asian movies, they are pumping out stories, with no woke politics in them. And Latin American movies haven't seen to have caught on to woke so far either. So it seems that it's only an English speaking nation thing so far, unless I am wrong?


All western nations (including non-English speaking ones) are going through social activism. The environment movement, the #Metoo movement and the George Floyd protests are all heavily protested in western Europe.

Non-western countries tend to be run by governments that do not encourage activism (for example India in another thread bans social media platforms).



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16 Jun 2021, 5:02 pm

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Noah Rothman's arguments are pure hyperbole with no substance.
All this stems from obnoxious parents who are Trump supporters making the rather bold (and stupid) claim that their children's textbooks contain critical race theory.

Yet, Collier County Public Schools says those books have nothing to do with critical race theory.

A school district official pushed back on these claims of pushing politics in the classroom.

“There is no evidence of critical race theory in this resource or any of the HMH Florida inter-reading student materials, teacher materials or any ancillary materials,” they said.

School board member Stephanie Lucarelli agrees with this sentiment. “After going through all these texts and having four kids in our schools as well, anything in these texts was not, you know, a problem for me.”
https://www.winknews.com/2021/06/07/par ... ce-theory/

Pathetic...

What article are you reading? Noah Rothman does not mention Collier County in his Commentary blog nor in any of the linked articles I checked out before the paywall kicked in. The article is about Noah Rothman criticizing anti CRT people like himself for being hypocrites and wrong for trying to cancel CRT.

There is plenty of proof of Critical Race Theory being taught in schools. I have posted them. But forget about me check out the series in City Journal by Christopher Rufo a Magna Cum Laude graduate of Georgetown University and a senior fellow at Manhattan Institute.
Christopher Rufo on Woke Education


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16 Jun 2021, 7:30 pm

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What article are you reading? Noah Rothman does not mention Collier County in his Commentary blog nor in any of the linked articles I checked out before the paywall kicked in. The article is about Noah Rothman criticizing anti CRT people like himself for being hypocrites and wrong for trying to cancel CRT.

I honestly was confused reading the opinion/article as his twitter feed is normally anti-woke. Reading it again it just seems like a lot of waffle, so he is backtracking. Well at least he admitted the error of his ways.


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There is plenty of proof of Critical Race Theory being taught in schools. I have posted them. But forget about me check out the series in City Journal by Christopher Rufo a Magna Cum Laude graduate of Georgetown University and a senior fellow at Manhattan Institute.
Christopher Rufo on Woke Education


Do you mean Christopher F. Rufo? an American conservative activist and research fellow at the right-wing Discovery Institute?

People who identify/represent a political wing are not objective academics AS. We have had plenty here in Australia. The late Professor Geoffrey Blainey from Melbourne University who became notorious as a spokesperson for the far right and tried to battle his colleagues who he made claims were injecting left wing bias into the history curriculum. Much of his writing attempted to minimise the imapct of settlement on Australian aborigines and he and one of his fellow right wing academics Keith Windshuttle published claims that there was no genocide of aboriginal people in Australia, Windshuttle was forced to self-publish in hardcover as no respected publishing house would accept his manuscripts (this is before the establishment of right-wing think tanks).

The point is that money from conservatives in the US helped set up this discovery institute (and all right wing think tanks), Right wing think tanks (like the one Christopher Rua work for) survive on donations from right wingers.
https://www.discovery.org/donate/

Why? because they publish rubbish that is anti-climate change, anti-minority etc which is what they donors want so that people like Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, Jordan Petersen or Candance Owens have data to attack real intellectuals from American Universities.