Sanjay Gupta admits lies surrounding horse dewormer

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16 Oct 2021, 4:13 pm

What I want to know is why CNN hasn't been removed from social media for the lies they have told about Ivermectin. It seems like that would be the correct thing to do.

Gosh!


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16 Oct 2021, 5:01 pm

You ever smoke a joint and watch the mainstream media go crazy?

Kind of like that for me, I just wish I'd smoked a joint.


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16 Oct 2021, 5:04 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
What I want to know is why CNN hasn't been removed from social media for the lies they have told about Ivermectin. It seems like that would be the correct thing to do.

Gosh!

Obvious - they're lying for the 'right side of history'.


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16 Oct 2021, 9:00 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Pepe wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
MaxE wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
MaxE wrote:


It would appear once again that presentation of facts takes a back seat to attacking CNN and perpetuating the myth of the "dangerous left wing media" cancelling free speech.


There has been plenty of discussion and information presented on Ivermectin. Nobody is pushing disinformation. I already stated that I misspoke in my initial post.

But here you are standing up for blatent disinformation from CNN. Truly pathetic!

My link is from Buzzfeed News, not certain whether that was a cause for confusion.


The problem is we are really up against it when digesting the information we receive. Official sources lie, and non-official sources lie. Being a total apologist for either is worrisome and foolish.


People who blindly believe everything/k they hear are fools and tools. 8)


Pretty much. But I hesitate to use the word "fools," since I used to be one of them -- over ten years ago.


So was I.
"It is not a sin to be ignorant.
The sin is to stay ignorant." 8)


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16 Oct 2021, 9:03 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
What I want to know is why CNN hasn't been removed from social media for the lies they have told about Ivermectin. It seems like that would be the correct thing to do.

Gosh!


A left-wing media outlet being cancelled for disinformation?
In what universe? :mrgreen:


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16 Oct 2021, 9:04 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
What I want to know is why CNN hasn't been removed from social media for the lies they have told about Ivermectin. It seems like that would be the correct thing to do.

Gosh!

Obvious - they're lying for the 'right left side of history'.


Fixed it. 8)


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16 Oct 2021, 11:40 pm

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I'm a little confused where this thread is heading?

This whole discussion is that CNN should of called it a *human de-wormer* not a *horse de-wormer*.

However, likely, in the US, it rarely ever gets used on humans, likely, human worms is a rare problem in first world countries.

It's not even clear how Rogan thinks he has "COVID worms".

So, it's so outlandish and in medicine it's probably primary known as a *horse de-wormer* that he invites the label of *horse de-wormer*.

Mayo clinic ..
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supple ... 064397?p=1

"Ivermectin is used in the treatment of certain worm infections."

"Ivermectin appears to work by paralyzing and then killing the offspring of adult worms. It may also slow down the rate at which adult worms reproduce"


Ok thanks for being courteous enough to respond to my question instead of trolling as others here seem to be doing.

Since the source CNN is being accused of misinformation, its interesting to look at their "right wing" counterpart fox news had to say
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-don-l ... ivermectin

Interestingly, while Dr Sanjay Gupta is claimed to have double downed and Don Lemon denies there was any intent to misinform, this seems to be a splitting of the hairs over what might have been a simple mistake in Dr Gupta calling Ivermectin a horse-dewormer. Medical doctors are not gods and they can get their wires crossed.

To claim this is a CNN cover up is a bit rich. More likely a bungle. Should Sanjay Gupta offer a retraction? probably, Is this a sign of CNN spreading lies? hardly. Much ado about nothing.



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17 Oct 2021, 10:11 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
You ever smoke a joint and watch the mainstream media go crazy?

Kind of like that for me, I just wish I'd smoked a joint.


After watching MSM, and all the apologists for it, a good joint hits the spot.


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18 Oct 2021, 8:11 am

I heard that Rogan has been drinking a know engine coolant for it's health benefits! Something called H2O. CNN needs to get on this story immediately!



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18 Oct 2021, 8:27 am

I saw a tweet, can't remember who composed it, that read, "Have they cancelled Joe Rogan today?"


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18 Oct 2021, 9:35 am

CNN has a narrativ to advance so any person out there going against that narrative is the enemy and must be destroyed.



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18 Oct 2021, 11:52 am



The Problem Is; And The Problem That Makes Non-Mainstream News Streams on the Internet Potentially
More Dangerous Is, They Often Exist in an Echo Chamber; And It's True, the Target Audiences of Mainstream

Media Often Stick like Glue on One Source For Whoever They May Identify With Most;
Both Personality Wise and Ideologies of Course too; What i Like to See is Someone

Not Afraid to Stand-Up to Their Peers They Interact with When it Comes to Spreading
What is Less Than What Stands Up to Truth or Makes Sense in Life. 'This Particular

Youtube Avenue' Called 'Rebel Wisdom' Seems to Be More Sincere in that Effort
As they Stood Firm When Brett Weinstein, Part of Their Old So-Called 'Dark
Web', Went Rogue in Echo Chambers over Ivermectin And Indeed Spread

Dangerous and Spinning Information on Effectiveness of the Drug
That Was Not Reliably Scientifically Shown to Be Effective; So, If You

Like, Give These Less Echo Chambered Views A Spin; And to Be Clear,

Joe Rogan Entertains Views Obviously other than His; Case in Point,
Sanja Gupta of Course; Yet Rogan Seems to Be A Bit too Much into Magical
Thinking And Even Paranoia As Far As Any Effective Skeptic Might Be taken Serious...

Anyway, He's Entertaining...

That Much

i'll Give Him;

Will i Believe What He Says;

Not Much More Than World
Wide Wrestling is Really Real Either

Or Chris Cuomo actually Tosses around
100 Pound Dumb-Bells Over His Head For Real;

Problem Here is, We Are Dealing as a Nation
With iS A Deadliest Pandemic in this Country's
History that Has killed Over 700,000 Folks Dead;
While That Might Be Easier to Dismiss, Not Seeing All
The Blood And Guts Spread Around A World Trade Center
Blown Up; As Rogan Has Spread Conspiracy Theories About that too;

The Bottom Line is, Over 700,000 Folks Are Dead And Spreading Fallacious
Information is Deadly Indeed When it Comes to Touting A Drug Shown to Be Potentially

Dangerous;

More Effectively

Used And Mostly Used
Indeed in the United States
For De-Worming Horses Indeed...

It is not a Lie to Say it Does that; And
Yes it would Have Been More Appropriate
To Ask Joe Rogan Which Kind of Drug He
Took, Human Or Horse Farm Variety; However,

Opinion Shows on News Shows Do Throw Shade
Commonly That Aren't Always All True or False;

Some are Practically Parodies too; You Are Much Less
Likely to Hear These Opinions, When it comes to the actual
Reporting of the Daily News By Folks Like Wolf Blitzer on CNN And

Chris Wallace
on The Fox News
Version of Mainstream Media too...

Fox News, overall, is Much Farther Away
From Spreading Reliable News than CNN;

Fox New's Continuing Opinions that Support Trump,
Who Both the Republican Senate Majority Leader and
Republican House Minority Leader at the Dates of the
Incidence Actually Admitted Trump Was Responsible in
Part for Inciting An Insurrection Against Our Democratic Process

Is surely Proof

of that Now;

Of Course, Along
With Those Spineless
Republican Leader Men Who Now Again Support
A Most Despicable Leader This Country Has Ever Witnessed...

Thing is, i Don't Live in An Echo Chamber; i Don't Work For Money;

i Rule All the Hours of my Day, Which Gives me An Opportunity to Listen to MORE VIEWS...

Reading 20 Times Faster Than the Average Human, Being One of my 'Personal Autistic Super Powers';
And Typing 130 Words or So A Minute Around the Globe in Thousands of Words A Day, When Properly
Focused As
A Lifelong

Pianist too;

Does Actually

Give me

An Advantage

'Normal' Folks Don't have, hehe...




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18 Oct 2021, 12:19 pm

^So...we shouldn't criticize disinformation from corporate media sources, only the more dangerous disinformation coming from private citizens occupying "echo chambers."

Alrighty, then. There's acceptable disinformation and there's not acceptable disinformation. The disinformation coming from official sources is not profit-driven in any way, and we should all have a wonderful, glowing feeling about their disinformation since it's in all our best interests.

(I gotta lay down! That hurt my head!)


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18 Oct 2021, 1:31 pm

This is f*****g hilarious! Sanja got a good talking to after he got back to CNN, and was forced to do this little damage control segment with Don Lemon.

Are we all loving CNN again? Heh!

Highly entertaining!


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18 Oct 2021, 1:45 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
^So...we shouldn't criticize disinformation from corporate media sources, only the more dangerous disinformation coming from private citizens occupying "echo chambers."

Alrighty, then. There's acceptable disinformation and there's not acceptable disinformation. The disinformation coming from official sources is not profit-driven in any way, and we should all have a wonderful, glowing feeling about their disinformation since it's in all our best interests.

(I gotta lay down! That hurt my head!)




'Your' Words, Not Mine. i Clearly Said CNN
Could Have Done the Job More appropriately
By Getting Clarification from Rogan First
By Asking What Kind of Ivermectin, Farm
Source or Human Source He Was Using;

It Would Have Helped Safety A Bit, to Begin With
At Least, if Rogan had clarified that First with his
Often Naive and Ignorant Target Audience Same;

The Video i Added Does
Criticize All News Avenues
More Appropriately Now than

Just Black and White Thinking
That Says Mainstream Media Bad

And Other Stuff Private Citizens Do on the Web Good....

Of Course, in Criticizing Both, Echo Chambers Tend

To Even Delete

Or Ban Information

They Don't Agree With;

Perhaps, the Most Egregious Source
of Disinformation And Indeed Echo
Chambers for Both Ignorance And Unsafe
Practices During this Covid-19 Challenge Has Been

'The Frigging Church', A Sacred Cow That Most All
Mainstream News Sources in the United States, At Least, Are Afraid

to Criticize
For How The Church
Support Sacred Cows

That Are Truly 'Evil' Like Trump too...

'The Church is A Major Part of Both Target Audiences

And Often Taboo to Touch...

Hehe, i'm Not Afraid to See more than Black and White Think...

In Other Words, Crowd Think Indeed; And Yes, If One Has to Think
About it Deeper than Black and White, Some Folks Will Have to Work Harder at it...

And Maybe

Even Take

Some Kind of
Alternative Therapy to Deal With 'That Headache' too..
Hehe, Dance And Song Freely Like this works for me..:)



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18 Oct 2021, 2:11 pm

Truth does not mind being questioned. Falsehood will not put up with being questioned.