Does your autism impact your political views?

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Does your Aspergers play a role in your political outlook?
Yes 65%  65%  [ 11 ]
No 35%  35%  [ 6 ]
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12 Mar 2023, 10:07 pm

Makes me more anti more Anti Trump because his personality type has harmed, frustrated, and annoyed me.

Makes me more anti-censorship because as a minority I understand we are more likely to be the target of it.

Makes me more Anti woke because
1. See censorship above
2. Their emphasis on identity politics harms those who "think differently"
3. Holding people to account for the most minor things and verbal slipups is bad for people prone to these.

While we are not the prime target of the anti-woke backlash that can and probably will change


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12 Mar 2023, 11:29 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Makes me more Anti woke because
1. See censorship above
2. Their emphasis on identity politics harms those who "think differently"
3. Holding people to account for the most minor things and verbal slipups is bad for people prone to these.


I get what you mean, but "woke" is very poorly defined and when the right has given a definition of it it has not been what you are talking about here - that is, "cancel culture".

I very much agree that cancel culture is a very big problem. There are some extreme cases that I do agree with (people proven to be abusers, etc), but I do not give a s**t if user12345 said the R word five years ago.


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13 Mar 2023, 3:51 am

I didn't vote yes or no. First of all I don't have Aspergers. I have Moderate Autism. Secondly I don't know if it "affects" my views because my views come from who I am. That includes my autism, my ADHD, my trauma, my finances, and all parts of me, but those things are all connected and can't be evaluated separately.

I don't follow organised politics or affiliate with any prescribed dogma. My values are consistent in terms of personal liberties and freedoms, but I don't know anything about the financial or economic aspect of running a country so I can't comment on that. I certainly don't believe in higher taxes, because I'm already in one of the highest-taxed places on the planet, with the highest cost of living of anywhere in the western world.

When an election approaches I look at each party's platform with fresh eyes to see a) how they will support persons with disabilities b) how they will support single parents (especially disabled single parents with disabled kids), and c) their budget including the prime rate and defence. I guess you could say that "Disability Rights" are at the forefront of my concerns so maybe that means my autism does play a role, but my status as a disabled person is because of trauma and strokes, not ASD. I also have a permanently disabled child.

The rest of what politicians discuss in debates is usually BS and I don't believe a word of their promises anyway, regarding the environment or healthcare. My government just decided to cut $21B out of the healthcare budget and of course they didn't announce this prior to election.

It's all a shite-show as far as I'm concerned, with political patronage, lies, and corruption. I will always vote, because people died for my right to do so, but beyond that I don't expect much to change regardless of who is elected.


* No I am not American, and I don't give a rat's arse what's going on there.


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13 Mar 2023, 7:33 am

Yes.

I’m more bitter, since the family disowned me.

I’m extremely isolationist. This entire country can go to hell as far as I’m concerned.

I’m pretty much a pariah, since my physical and mental has gone downhill. The German hymn Komm, suesser Tod’ is the best music I’ve ever heard.



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13 Mar 2023, 7:55 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:


* No I am not American, and I don't give a rat's arse what's going on there.


The feeling is entirely mutual, eh. :lol:



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13 Mar 2023, 12:34 pm

I think it impacted my political views before I knew I had ASD. My bad experiences in the world of work needed some explanation, and the most plausible theory was the socialist one that said the whole wages system was a cruel, unequal bargain for ordinary people. Not that I've embraced capitalism since my diagnosis. I've just accepted that there was more going on than I'd originally thought, that sometimes I got into trouble because of misunderstandings that arose from my undiagnosed autism.

I can see other reasons why ASD would affect political views. We commonly like order, which might make some of us favour a somewhat authoritarian society (though we also often have trouble with authority figures, which complicates that issue), and then there's the "pathological honesty" thing that might make some of us more hostile to the free market (which is rarely very honest) and to politicians (also rarely honest). I feel strands of those things running through me all the time. I get surprisingly annoyed when motorists bend and break certain rules (such as pavement parking), I tend to view authority figures primarily as potentially jumped-up as*holes, and I often vehemently attack traders, advertisers and politicians for pulling dirty tricks and for being so shamelessly insincere.

Diagnosis hasn't mellowed me very much in those respects, or changed my opinions a lot. I tend to think ASD just gave me ways of seeing a bit more clearly what's going on. I suppose I'm less violently opposed to capitalism, authoritarianism and dishonesty than I used to be, but I'm still strongly against those things.



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13 Mar 2023, 8:20 pm

colliegrace wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Makes me more Anti woke because
1. See censorship above
2. Their emphasis on identity politics harms those who "think differently"
3. Holding people to account for the most minor things and verbal slipups is bad for people prone to these.


I get what you mean, but "woke" is very poorly defined and when the right has given a definition of it it has not been what you are talking about here - that is, "cancel culture".

I very much agree that cancel culture is a very big problem. There are some extreme cases that I do agree with (people proven to be abusers, etc), but I do not give a s**t if user12345 said the R word five years ago.

It is far more than cancel culture which comes from both the left and right. It views America as irredeemably and systematically racist. It says one is not privileged or oppressed by individual circumstances but by the power dynamics of the groups one belongs. Because whites are privileged they are racist. Merit and color blindness is bad because it enables systematic racism.

The question asked was not to define woke but how my Autism affects my political views.


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14 Mar 2023, 12:02 am

No, not directly anyway. I lean more conservative and rightist, but I am starting to sympathize with minarchy. I just think polities should be split and scaled down. You can live in your ultra-liberal society community and I can live in my more conservative-leaning community.

The problem we have today is one side calling the other evil. I don't want to force anything onto you, in reality I just want us to be left alone.



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14 Mar 2023, 12:07 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think my Aspergers does make me more inclined to be a Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist or Minarchist Republican.I consider myself Libertarian but I vote straight-ticket republican in all races since I was 18 because the Libertarian Party is not a viable party in terms of real political power.I dont really think I am a social conservative in the political sense of the word.

Like I believe in traditional values about some things but I want all drugs, prostitution, gambling,tobacco,alcohol,guns,weapons,fast food, caffeine and the sin industries to be legalized,extremely deregulated, and heavily commercialized and legal for everybody.I think we should exempt all businesses and non-profits from all taxes.I think we should exempt the top 20 percent in terms of wealth and income from all taxes.


I actually agree with a lot of that...but why do you think the bottom 80% should not be exempt from taxes but the top ones should? I would rather have the opposite, where the top 5-10% of income should pay moderate or even high taxes and the rest should be exempt, as far as taxes directly on income go.



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14 Mar 2023, 12:10 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
Yes in some ways, I think that my political views tend to be unconventional for my social setting. Also they tend to be inclined towards individualism as opposed to communitarianism (if such a word exists). And I think autism has something to do with that. In my teens and early twenties I was an individualist anarchist, now I'm a libertarian. Both are individualistic in nature. Also they take the form of special interest.


I assume you mean right-libertarian, am I right?



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14 Mar 2023, 12:12 am

Caz72 wrote:
seems most autistics here are liberal or left

im very conservative


Conservative Party, Brexit, misc. (Not familiar with the other conservative UK parties :P).



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14 Mar 2023, 12:57 am

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think my Aspergers does make me more inclined to be a Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist or Minarchist Republican.I consider myself Libertarian but I vote straight-ticket republican in all races since I was 18 because the Libertarian Party is not a viable party in terms of real political power.I dont really think I am a social conservative in the political sense of the word.

Like I believe in traditional values about some things but I want all drugs, prostitution, gambling,tobacco,alcohol,guns,weapons,fast food, caffeine and the sin industries to be legalized,extremely deregulated, and heavily commercialized and legal for everybody.I think we should exempt all businesses and non-profits from all taxes.I think we should exempt the top 20 percent in terms of wealth and income from all taxes.


I actually agree with a lot of that...but why do you think the bottom 80% should not be exempt from taxes but the top ones should? I would rather have the opposite, where the top 5-10% of income should pay moderate or even high taxes and the rest should be exempt, as far as taxes directly on income go.

Because I believe tax cuts for the rich would create more economic growth but I would be fine with a national sales tax like the fairtax or a national flat tax.I think millionaires and billionaires,6 figure earners,corporations,small business,non-profits,churches and pastors should all pay 0 taxes.



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14 Mar 2023, 2:34 am

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Yes in some ways, I think that my political views tend to be unconventional for my social setting. Also they tend to be inclined towards individualism as opposed to communitarianism (if such a word exists). And I think autism has something to do with that. In my teens and early twenties I was an individualist anarchist, now I'm a libertarian. Both are individualistic in nature. Also they take the form of special interest.


I assume you mean right-libertarian, am I right?


Yes, of course.



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14 Mar 2023, 1:34 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think my Aspergers does make me more inclined to be a Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist or Minarchist Republican.I consider myself Libertarian but I vote straight-ticket republican in all races since I was 18 because the Libertarian Party is not a viable party in terms of real political power.I dont really think I am a social conservative in the political sense of the word.

Like I believe in traditional values about some things but I want all drugs, prostitution, gambling,tobacco,alcohol,guns,weapons,fast food, caffeine and the sin industries to be legalized,extremely deregulated, and heavily commercialized and legal for everybody.I think we should exempt all businesses and non-profits from all taxes.I think we should exempt the top 20 percent in terms of wealth and income from all taxes.


I actually agree with a lot of that...but why do you think the bottom 80% should not be exempt from taxes but the top ones should? I would rather have the opposite, where the top 5-10% of income should pay moderate or even high taxes and the rest should be exempt, as far as taxes directly on income go.

Because I believe tax cuts for the rich would create more economic growth but I would be fine with a national sales tax like the fairtax or a national flat tax.I think millionaires and billionaires,6 figure earners,corporations,small business,non-profits,churches and pastors should all pay 0 taxes.


Do you believe counter-intuitively that the richer paying less or no taxes may encourage or incentivize less rich people to attain more wealth themselves? This is a unique take.



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14 Mar 2023, 7:52 pm

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I think my Aspergers does make me more inclined to be a Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist or Minarchist Republican.I consider myself Libertarian but I vote straight-ticket republican in all races since I was 18 because the Libertarian Party is not a viable party in terms of real political power.I dont really think I am a social conservative in the political sense of the word.

Like I believe in traditional values about some things but I want all drugs, prostitution, gambling,tobacco,alcohol,guns,weapons,fast food, caffeine and the sin industries to be legalized,extremely deregulated, and heavily commercialized and legal for everybody.I think we should exempt all businesses and non-profits from all taxes.I think we should exempt the top 20 percent in terms of wealth and income from all taxes.


I actually agree with a lot of that...but why do you think the bottom 80% should not be exempt from taxes but the top ones should? I would rather have the opposite, where the top 5-10% of income should pay moderate or even high taxes and the rest should be exempt, as far as taxes directly on income go.

Because I believe tax cuts for the rich would create more economic growth but I would be fine with a national sales tax like the fairtax or a national flat tax.I think millionaires and billionaires,6 figure earners,corporations,small business,non-profits,churches and pastors should all pay 0 taxes.


Do you believe counter-intuitively that the richer paying less or no taxes may encourage or incentivize less rich people to attain more wealth themselves? This is a unique take.

I just think more rich people would start more companies hire more people expand their companies if they paid less taxes.



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15 Mar 2023, 8:03 am

I honestly don't know. What do you guys think? I can't stand the right but I also can't stand the 'woke' left. My views align more with the left because they seem more altruistic to me and their views better help support human survival. Our culture is broken and I just wish people cared more about each other. I think my views are pretty 'normal' though, because this is what reasonable people who aren't deeply invested in politics tend to believe. That's what I think at least?