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15 Sep 2021, 5:43 pm

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US, UK and Australia forge military alliance to counter China


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Aukus partnership will enable Australia to have nuclear-powered submarines for the first time
Julian Borger in Washington and Dan Sabbagh Defence and security editor
Thu 16 Sep 2021 07.00 AEST

The US, UK and Australia are setting up a trilateral security partnership aimed at confronting China, which will include helping Australia to build nuclear-powered submarines.

The initiative, called Aukus, was announced jointly by President Joe Biden and prime ministers Boris Johnson and Scott Morrison, joined virtually by videoconference. They presented it as the next critical step in an old alliance.

Morrison said teams from the three countries would draw up a joint plan over the coming 18 months for assembling the new Australian nuclear-powered submarine fleet, which will be built in Adelaide. The project will make Australia only the seventh country in the world to have submarines propelled by nuclear reactors.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ship-aukus


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15 Sep 2021, 5:44 pm

"AUKUS will undoubtedly cause a raucous in China. :mrgreen:


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China has destroyed the whole world with their precious virus, the government there deserve to be blasted off the face of the earth.


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Boy I wish I could afford a high tech bomb shelter... :skull:


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15 Sep 2021, 10:09 pm

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China has destroyed the whole world with their precious virus, the government there deserve to be blasted off the face of the earth.


My best evaluation is that the pandemic was caused by an accidental leak from the Wuhan lab.
This does happen.

The unconscionable behaviour of the Chinese government was the coverup and the *deliberate* policy of allowing infected Chinese citizens to travel the world and spread the problem.

This is the sort of world we live in.
Enjoy. 8)


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16 Sep 2021, 4:09 am

Pepe wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
China has destroyed the whole world with their precious virus, the government there deserve to be blasted off the face of the earth.


My best evaluation is that the pandemic was caused by an accidental leak from the Wuhan lab.
This does happen.

The unconscionable behaviour of the Chinese government was the coverup and the *deliberate* policy of allowing infected Chinese citizens to travel the world and spread the problem.

This is the sort of world we live in.
Enjoy. 8)



Links to intentionally allowing it's citizens to spread the virus?



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16 Sep 2021, 4:05 pm

Did Biden remember the Australian PM's name yet?


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16 Sep 2021, 5:31 pm

Pepe wrote:
"AUKUS will undoubtedly cause a raucous in China. :mrgreen:

It sounds like the name of a bird.
“The rare Aukus builds its nest and defends it by pecking savagely at intruders.”


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Scott Morrison declares AUKUS defence agreement to be a 'forever partnership' with UK, US

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has welcomed the AUKUS agreement with the US and UK as a "forever partnership" between the "oldest and most trusted of friends".

Dominica Funnell
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Navy submariner Rex Patrick says that in general, nuclear powered submarines “are fantastic from an energy perspective”.…

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has celebrated the new AUKUS agreement between the United Kingdom and United States as the "single greatest initiative" to ensure stability and security in the region since the ANZUS Alliance.

Speaking to the media on Thursday, Mr Morrison described the agreement as "a forever partnership … between the oldest and most trusted of friends".

"It is the single largest step we have been able to take to advance our defence capabilities in this country, not just a this point but for the future," he said.


https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... rallPos=10


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16 Sep 2021, 6:12 pm

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Did Biden remember the Australian PM's name yet?


Give him a break.
He is doing the right thing even if he doesn't know who Spott Murrytan is. :mrgreen:
At least he isn't confusing us with Austria, which I have heard a lot of Amerian do. 8O

BTW, what is the size of the Austrian submarine fleet? :scratch: :mrgreen:

Uncle Joe is in my good books, again. :thumright:


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16 Sep 2021, 6:19 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Pepe wrote:
"AUKUS will undoubtedly cause a raucous in China. :mrgreen:

It sounds like the name of a bird.
“The rare Aukus builds its nest and defends it by pecking savagely at intruders.”


I immediately thought of this:

Image

Scott Morrison has an advertising background.
I am *guessing* he came up with the name. 8)


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16 Sep 2021, 10:05 pm

Apparently this alliance sunk a French arms deal with the Aussies for diesel subs, and the French are very unhappy about it:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-move-d ... 021-09-15/

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PARIS, Sept 16 (Reuters) - France accused U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday of stabbing it in the back and acting like his predecessor Donald Trump after Paris was pushed aside from a historic defence export contract to supply Australia with submarines.

The United States, Britain and Australia announced they would establish a security partnership for the Indo-Pacific that will help Australia acquire U.S. nuclear-powered submarines and scrap the $40 billion French-designed submarine deal. read more

"This brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision reminds me a lot of what Mr Trump used to do," Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told franceinfo radio. "I am angry and bitter. This isn't done between allies."

It is the latest dramatic twist in a contest that has seen naval shipbuilding powers battle for years over what many observers called the world's largest single arms export deal.

In 2016, Australia had selected French shipbuilder Naval Group to build a new submarine fleet worth $40 billion to replace its more than two-decades-old Collins submarines.

Just two weeks ago, the Australian defence and foreign ministers had reconfirmed the deal to France, and French President Emmanuel Macron lauded decades of future cooperation when hosting Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison in June.

"It's a stab in the back. We created a relationship of trust with Australia and that trust has been broken," Le Drian said.

French relations with the United States soured during the presidency of Trump, who often irritated European allies by demanding they increase their defence spending to help NATO while reaching out to adversaries like Russia and North Korea.


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16 Sep 2021, 10:16 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Apparently this alliance sunk a French arms deal with the Aussies for diesel subs, and the French are very unhappy about it:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-move-d ... 021-09-15/

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PARIS, Sept 16 (Reuters) - France accused U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday of stabbing it in the back and acting like his predecessor Donald Trump after Paris was pushed aside from a historic defence export contract to supply Australia with submarines.

The United States, Britain and Australia announced they would establish a security partnership for the Indo-Pacific that will help Australia acquire U.S. nuclear-powered submarines and scrap the $40 billion French-designed submarine deal. read more

"This brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision reminds me a lot of what Mr Trump used to do," Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told franceinfo radio. "I am angry and bitter. This isn't done between allies."

It is the latest dramatic twist in a contest that has seen naval shipbuilding powers battle for years over what many observers called the world's largest single arms export deal.

In 2016, Australia had selected French shipbuilder Naval Group to build a new submarine fleet worth $40 billion to replace its more than two-decades-old Collins submarines.

Just two weeks ago, the Australian defence and foreign ministers had reconfirmed the deal to France, and French President Emmanuel Macron lauded decades of future cooperation when hosting Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison in June.

"It's a stab in the back. We created a relationship of trust with Australia and that trust has been broken," Le Drian said.

French relations with the United States soured during the presidency of Trump, who often irritated European allies by demanding they increase their defence spending to help NATO while reaching out to adversaries like Russia and North Korea.


In part, the French sunk their own boat, so to speak.
They reneged on the guarantee that a certain proportion of workers would be Australian, and, as usual, the project costs became massively over-blown.

The problem with the French deal had a lot to do with the sub purchase being more political than practical.
The left side of politics made it impossible to purchase nuclear submarines, at the time, because of their stupid ridiculous anti-nuclear policy, which was purely ideological.

The amusing/ironic thing is, now that China has become a major existential threat, the Labor party has indicated they will agree to the plan.
"Better late than never", I guess. :? :mrgreen:

Oh, btw, in the article it says 40 billion.
It has recently been reported that it was actually 90 billion in Australian dollars.
Like I said, there was a massive blow-out cost of the project.
What else is new? :mrgreen:

It will cost us around 450 million to get out of the deal.
It is well worth it, imo. 8)


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17 Sep 2021, 2:50 am

New Zealand.
Hiding behind Australia's shirttails. 8)


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17 Sep 2021, 5:12 am

The China thereat will be over soon anyway. They think sex and babies are oppressive and their maternity wards have tumbleweeds rolling down the hallways.



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17 Sep 2021, 5:33 am

China Fires Back with “No Mercy”:
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2021-09-16/china-fires-back-at-aukus-alliance-with-violent-rhetoric-australian-troops-would-be-the-first-to-die

Charming … “China on Thursday expressed outrage at a new security pact between Australia, the U.K. and the U.S., blasting what it considers a new Western provocation and singling out Australian troops as the first to die as a result of "Beijing's countermeasures so as to send a warning to others."

“Canberra will most likely become a target of Beijing's countermeasures so as to send a warning to others," the Global Times wrote. "Thus, Australian troops are also most likely to be the first batch of Western soldiers to waste their lives in the South China Sea."