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11 Oct 2021, 11:16 pm

nationalists think they are patriots when they are anything but.



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11 Oct 2021, 11:22 pm

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For all the "free thinkers" who "did their own research" before they had to call on their "prayer warriors" who couldn't save them from inevitably setting up the Go Fund Me to cover the funeral expenses.


Hating America is very fashionable nowadays.


How is that hating America?
The West Coast is the leader in hating America, although New York is a close second. Russia (well, USSR at the time) once had a criminal charge: "unpatriotic activity". It's very sad how extreme leftists are getting away with the very thing USSR, their patron saint, once arrested and executed (by firing squad) its citizens for. If America had such a criminal charge, there would be no Antifa, Anthony Fauci, or George Soros; they'd all get what they deserve, with no liberal kangaroo courts to defend them.


Hold on, now! I live in Washington state, which is of course located on the west coast, and I can tell you there is zero hatred of America here. Real patriotism is being critical of what's wrong with your country so those things can be rectified, not ignoring one's country's problems, or worse, trying to justify them.
And as for your claim that the old Soviet Union had been sainted by the American left, all I can say is, you know absolutely nothing about my part of the country. Establishing a social safety net to protect the vulnerable, and regulating business for the sake of customer, employee, and environmental protection, hardly means we on the west coast are enthralled by communism - - though you conservatives seem to believe helping anyone not rich and powerful is communistic.
Fauci, Antifa, and Soros are not disloyal Americans just because you disagree with them. And a word of warning: use of the word "liberal" might just gain you the wrath of the moderators.


I agree. Pretending to uncritically love your car when the engine is broken isn’t patriotism. Patriotism is tending to the engine repair and getting the car back on the road.

Just because people on the coast will call it like it is doesn’t mean they hate their country.


Thank you. I like to think that applies to all thinking Americans, regardless of region.


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11 Oct 2021, 11:25 pm

^^^that reminds me of how illinois gov. adlai stevenson was told, "all thinking people are for you!" whereupon he replied, "that's not enough, i need a majority to win."



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11 Oct 2021, 11:36 pm

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^^^that reminds me of how illinois gov. adlai stevenson was told, "all thinking people are for you!" whereupon he replied, "that's not enough, i need a majority to win."


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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12 Oct 2021, 3:33 am

I am still waiting to turn into a crocodile.


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12 Oct 2021, 4:41 am

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I am still waiting to turn into a crocodile.


Joke's on Tropical Trump when fear of turning into a crocodile lands him in a hospital bed with a tube down his throat.


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12 Oct 2021, 5:38 am

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A lot of people seem to change their mind once they realize that's the choice they've made and it really won't own the libs, it'll just mean you needlessly suffer for awhile before not getting to enjoy your conspiracy friends and hookers.

It's a really dumb hill to pick to die on, you'd be better off to act like you're rebelling against the mean, nasty left psy-op trying to convince you not get vaccinated and then try to 'own the libs' by acting like you're on to the real plot, at least then you'd be at a much lower risk of long-term effects if you get sick.
Meh! I've been suicidal since I was 5, and had some sort of suicide plans since I was 8. So the notion of kicking the bucket from Biden-19 and making the news for it---as opposed to being just "some nutjob who offed himself"---felt kind of exciting. In fact, I specifically got the shot to "own the libs"---because now they have no leverage over me. Well, they still kind of do: my area treats vaxxed people and nonvaxxed people the same way. But at least now, I can virtue-signal about my vaccine to the liberal sheep as I shove my vax card in their ugly faces. Just like they've been virtue-signaling all of last year about staying home, while rooting for crowds of maskless looters ransacking our downtowns. If that's not hypocrites, then my name is Commie-la Harris!

The problem with "helping the vulnerable" is that the people who the Democrats consider to be "vulnerable" are usually anything but. So we end up spending tax money, taken from the incomes productive Americans work their butts off for, while they snicker and live it up with latest iPhones. All because "vulnerable" people vote Democrat.

For the last and final time, I'm PRO-VAX!! ! It's the actual liberal psy-ops I'm against: masks, lockdowns, and social distancing. My QAnon friends know I'm vaccinated, and they haven't kicked me out of the group. The escorts I have sex with love the fact that I'm vaccinated. And the few liberal friends I haven't kicked out of my life like it too.



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12 Oct 2021, 7:01 am

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I like calling up anti-vax churches with low-ball offers on their property. When they sound butthurt I ask why they're worried about worldly things when pretty soon they'll all be able to meet-up right in front of their creator.


Wow. That isn't immature at all.

Two birds with one stone in the methods of your attacks eh?


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12 Oct 2021, 8:48 am

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I like calling up anti-vax churches with low-ball offers on their property. When they sound butthurt I ask why they're worried about worldly things when pretty soon they'll all be able to meet-up right in front of their creator.
Wow.  That isn't immature at all.  Two birds with one stone in the methods of your attacks eh?
What?  After two millennia of hearing church leaders tell us that we are all going to spend eternity in the flaming pits of Hell if we do not deny science and obey every order given to us by their "prophets", one should think that they can take a little poke in their collective eye, especially if one of their anti-vax leaders dies of covid after refusing the vaccine and telling his/her followers that covid can be cured through drinking bleach and taking horse de-wormer.

Science may not be perfect; but Religion is much, much worse.  If you have any doubt, then consider these 15 Bible passages:

1. A wife is a man's property: You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Exodus 20:17

2. Daughters can be bought and sold: If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Exodus 21:7

3. A raped daughter can be sold to her rapist: 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29

4. Collecting wives and sex slaves is a sign of status: He [Solomon] had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. 1 Kings 11:3

5. Used brides deserve death: If, however the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21.

6. Women, but only virgins, are to be taken as spoils of war: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Numbers 31:17-18

7. Menstruating women are spiritually unclean: 19 "'When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. 20 "'Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. 21 Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 22 Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, . . . 30 The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the LORD for the uncleanness of her discharge. 31 "'You must keep the Israelites separate from things that make them unclean, so they will not die in their uncleanness for defiling my dwelling place,[a] which is among them.'" Leviticus 15: 19-31

8. A woman is twice as unclean after giving birth to girl as to a boy: A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. ' 3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. 4 Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. 5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. 6 " 'When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. Leviticus 12: 1-8

9. A woman's promise is binding only if her father or husband agrees: 2 When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. 3 "When a young woman still living in her father's household makes a vow to the LORD or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the LORD will release her because her father has forbidden her. ... A woman's vow is meaningless unless approved by her husband or father. But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the LORD will release her. 13 Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself. Numbers 30:1-16

9. Women should be seen not heard: Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 1 Corinthians 14:34

10. Wives should submit to their husband's instructions and desires: Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18

12. In case you missed that submission thing...: Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Ephesians 5:22-24.

13. More submission -- and childbearing as a form of atonement: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing -- if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. 1 Timothy 2: 11-15

14. Women were created for men: For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 1 Corinthians 11:2-10

15. Sleeping with women is dirty: No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as first-fruits to God and the Lamb. Revelation 14:3-4



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12 Oct 2021, 9:34 am

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I like calling up anti-vax churches with low-ball offers on their property. When they sound butthurt I ask why they're worried about worldly things when pretty soon they'll all be able to meet-up right in front of their creator.


Wow. That isn't immature at all.

Two birds with one stone in the methods of your attacks eh?


Let's see, someone spreads disinformation that gets people killed but the real bad guy is someone who points this out? Preachers who fill their congregation's heads with anti-vax BS are little more than murderers but you'd rather complain about me potentially hurting those people's feelings? I can tell you've got your priorities in order.


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12 Oct 2021, 9:37 am

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funeralxempire wrote:
A lot of people seem to change their mind once they realize that's the choice they've made and it really won't own the libs, it'll just mean you needlessly suffer for awhile before not getting to enjoy your conspiracy friends and hookers.

It's a really dumb hill to pick to die on, you'd be better off to act like you're rebelling against the mean, nasty left psy-op trying to convince you not get vaccinated and then try to 'own the libs' by acting like you're on to the real plot, at least then you'd be at a much lower risk of long-term effects if you get sick.
Meh! I've been suicidal since I was 5, and had some sort of suicide plans since I was 8. So the notion of kicking the bucket from Biden-19 and making the news for it---as opposed to being just "some nutjob who offed himself"---felt kind of exciting. In fact, I specifically got the shot to "own the libs"---because now they have no leverage over me. Well, they still kind of do: my area treats vaxxed people and nonvaxxed people the same way. But at least now, I can virtue-signal about my vaccine to the liberal sheep as I shove my vax card in their ugly faces. Just like they've been virtue-signaling all of last year about staying home, while rooting for crowds of maskless looters ransacking our downtowns. If that's not hypocrites, then my name is Commie-la Harris!

The problem with "helping the vulnerable" is that the people who the Democrats consider to be "vulnerable" are usually anything but. So we end up spending tax money, taken from the incomes productive Americans work their butts off for, while they snicker and live it up with latest iPhones. All because "vulnerable" people vote Democrat.

For the last and final time, I'm PRO-VAX!! ! It's the actual liberal psy-ops I'm against: masks, lockdowns, and social distancing. My QAnon friends know I'm vaccinated, and they haven't kicked me out of the group. The escorts I have sex with love the fact that I'm vaccinated. And the few liberal friends I haven't kicked out of my life like it too.


You actually bring up something interesting, I'm really curious now how many people are just LARPing their support for the Q cause because it helps them feel like their lives actually have meaning for once and they feel like they're connected to some hidden source of information that no one else has.


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12 Oct 2021, 9:48 am

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... I'm really curious now how many people are just LARPing their support for the Q cause because it helps them feel like their lives actually have meaning for once and they feel like they're connected to some hidden source of information that no one else has.
The same kind of people who "larp" their support for Incel ideology -- losers whose lives otherwise have no meaning.



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12 Oct 2021, 9:57 am

People who truly adhere to the QAnon ideology-----obviously do not think very much.

The very fact that Q is "Anonymous" speaks volumes....



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12 Oct 2021, 10:07 am

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People who truly adhere to the QAnon ideology-----obviously do not think very much.


I'd suggest they think a lot, but not very critically. There's a lot of ideas built on top of ideas, built on top of ideas but most of those ideas are unsubstantiated and incorrect. They've invented a very deeply fleshed out fantasy world to dwell in, it's not connected to reality.


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12 Oct 2021, 10:08 am

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You actually bring up something interesting, I'm really curious now how many people are just LARPing their support for the Q cause because it helps them feel like their lives actually have meaning for once and they feel like they're connected to some hidden source of information that no one else has.
Not all QAnon supporters are the same, any more than all aspies or all NTs are the same. You met one Q, you met one Q. I agree more with the overall spirit of QAnon, which is voting Republican and rejecting the liberal narrative,, than their specific beliefs. And if it wasn't for them, 2020 wouldn't have been 10% as fun as it was for me.


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Not all QAnon supporters are the same, any more than all aspies or all NTs are the same. You met one Q, you met one Q.


So they're just like antifa? :chin:


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