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02 Dec 2022, 4:51 am

Kanye west is like eww, he was always a sexist so why shouldn't racism and xenophobia have gained his love as well lol. Poor guy, must really suck being so full of hate and paranoia he can barely function, he needs some mental help clearly but like if he won't accept any than what is anyone to do aside from watch the dumpster fire he is becoming.


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02 Dec 2022, 4:52 am

Welp, he's really done it this time LOL.


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02 Dec 2022, 4:58 am

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Welp, he's really done it this time LOL.


What? become an even bigger loser than ever before. on that I could agree.


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02 Dec 2022, 6:06 am

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What? become an even bigger loser than ever before. on that I could agree.


Insanely rich, insanely talented, able to command all the attention he wants whenever he wants it, rotating cast of incredibly attractive female company; yeah, sounds like a real loser.


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02 Dec 2022, 11:19 am

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Republicans Finally Deleted That Tweet About Ye, Musk, And Trump And All It Took Was Praising Hitler
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Cast your mind back, if you can, to the bygone days of early October — Oct. 6 to be exact.

It was a different time. A simpler time, if that were somehow possible.

Ye, aka Kanye West, was set to appear on Fox News with Tucker Carlson to discuss his decision to wear a “White Lives Matter” shirt at Paris Fashion Week.

Elon Musk had just reversed himself and decided to avoid litigation by proceeding after all with buying Twitter at the ridiculous price he’d first proposed, having also promised to lift the permanent ban on Donald Trump.

And Trump was, I don’t know, sitting by the pool at Mar-a-Lago looking forward to the midterm elections a month away in which his fellow Republicans were expected to coast to an easy victory.

Evidently feeling confident that everything was coming up red, GOP members of the House Judiciary Committee opened Twitter and cranked out this classic: “Kanye. Elon. Trump.”

The gist of the tweet was simple. Conservatives were cool again. And rich. And proud of it!

What the tweet’s author (most likely Rep. Jim Jordan, the Trump ally with a habit for tweeting and the ranking Republican on that committee) didn’t seem to appreciate was that this tweet was the Twitter equivalent of the videotape from The Ring (2002), and if it mentioned you, your reputation would begin to nosedive within seven days.

Flash forward to Dec. 1, and the tweet has finally been put out of its misery.

After two months of cascading nightmares for each of the three men in the tweet, Ye saying he was a fan of Nazis is what finally caused the tweet to be deleted.


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02 Dec 2022, 12:00 pm

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So apparently that symbol is actually the logo of the Raelians. They were that UFO cult that was in the news a few years ago.

But I have a feeling West just picked it because it looked controversial, and that he may not even know about the Raelian connection.



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02 Dec 2022, 12:28 pm

Kanye West is either crazy, a glutton for punishment, or else is someone who loves free publicity no matter how negative.

Probably a combination of the above.



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02 Dec 2022, 12:53 pm

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Kanye West is either crazy, a glutton for punishment, or else is someone who loves free publicity no matter how negative.

Probably a combination of the above.


Seems like he's been going downhill ever since his mom died. Just accelerated lately.



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02 Dec 2022, 1:19 pm

His buddy described him as "a very troubled man, who just happens to be Black".

What can I say?

One of the rare true utterances ever made by Donald Trump :lol: .



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02 Dec 2022, 1:46 pm

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What? become an even bigger loser than ever before. on that I could agree.


Insanely rich, insanely talented, able to command all the attention he wants whenever he wants it, rotating cast of incredibly attractive female company; yeah, sounds like a real loser.


All that, and look how unhappy he is. I won't say anything in regards to talent or not, I for sure have never liked any of his music but music is subject to taste and I don't like much rap/hip hop so I am probably not a very good judge of how talented or not rap/hip hop artists are.

Still, seems like he may have all that, but is not enjoying it and may be on the path of losing some of it.


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02 Dec 2022, 2:37 pm

Now that we have heard what real pro Nazi beliefs sound like one would think it would slow down all the Nazi comparisons. One would think other bad things people have said and done would be put in perspective. One would think comparing to Nazis, somebody writing a slur in a tweet at age 14, using words, expressing beliefs decades ago that are not acceptable today, being for mask mandates, and yes identifying as aspie would sound trite and frivolous

cancel culture both left and right just got injected with steroids.
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02 Dec 2022, 2:52 pm

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My solution is simple, commit Ye into involuntary admission to a psychiatric ward and force him to take his medication. As soon as he admits he's over his psychotic episodes then let him re-enter normal society.

At most these medications will put filters on him from expressing who he really is. He is too much of a celebrity to be able to lead a normal life. The “best” scenario is that the meds work beyond expatiation, the man goes on an apology tour, is able to resume at least somewhat of a career, produces well reviewed music, becomes an in demand inspiration porn interviewee. This goes to his head setting off another manic episode.


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02 Dec 2022, 6:32 pm

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cancel culture both left and right just got injected with steroids.

A libertarian-conservative columnist with a different take
Kanye's Downfall Shows Why Free Speech Works
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Well, that didn't take long. In just a few weeks, Ye, the artist formerly known as Kanye West, has gone from potential Republican superstar to a completely disgraced antisemitic lunatic.

For tweeting the swastika, Ye was subsequently booted off of Twitter by Elon Musk. But I think this was a mistake. Musk should have ensured the tweet with the swastika was taken down for violating Twitter's Terms of Service. But banning Kanye misses how crucial letting him have his say has been to the resounding repudiation of his hate speech we've seen across all sectors of the public square.

Ye's rants are, of course, horrifying, factually untrue, and hateful. But it still doesn't vindicate proponents of "cancel culture" who have called for Kanye to be de-platformed. The opposite: It actually shows why free speech works.

By interviewing Kanye and giving his terrible ideas an audience, hosts like Tim Pool and even Alex Jones have given Ye the opportunity to immolate his own career and credibility. Now, after he's gone so far as to literally praise the Nazis and Hitler, almost nobody will continue to take Ye seriously. And any future political career he may have had is almost certainly dead-on-arrival.

A few weeks ago, when the extent of his antisemitism was still more subtle and less open, countless fans and followers were still taking Ye seriously, meaning his ideas were much more dangerous. But if he had been "deplatformed" like critics called for, his public deterioration would've been frozen in its pre-total-implosion state. It also might have vindicated his conspiratorial claims that the powers that be are out to get him, at least, in the minds of those keen to believe such things.

Meanwhile, actually engaging with Ye's arguments in the marketplace of ideas has quickly allowed the public to see how terrible and empty they are. The saga serves as an important reminder that when it comes to hateful speech, sunlight, not suppression, is the best remedy.

Or, as Supreme Court Justice Louise Brandeis famously put it, "Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman."

We can't make antisemitism, hate, and conspiracies disappear by ignoring them or attempting to silence their proponents. But we can defeat them by ridiculing and debunking them in the public square. As Professor Wilfred Reilly put it, "Kanye West saying his gibberish and getting shut down by the entire Internet is a great illustration of why free speech is good, actually."

After the last week, Kanye West is left looking like a delusional lunatic in desperate need of psychiatric care. His antisemitic ramblings can no longer be explained away as misunderstood arguments or politically incorrect truth-telling.

Kanye West only has himself to blame for the implosion of his career and life. Ironically, his racist implosion represents a win for tolerance at the end of the day, and for that, we have free speech to thank.


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02 Dec 2022, 9:05 pm

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At most these medications will put filters on him from expressing who he really is. He is too much of a celebrity to be able to lead a normal life.


You are getting mixed up between a lack of a filter/reduced inhibition and psychosis that leads to distorted thinking. Kanye is having psychotic grandiose delusions and is completely gone obsessive/compulsive driven by his own narcissism to draw on Hitler as some type of inspiration. In his condition he is getting exactly what he wants....global attention.

Strong doses of antipsychotics will at least normalise his behaviour even if it doesn't get rid of his narcissistic tendencies. I would also no be surprised in addition to bipolar disorder he also has schizotypal tendencies or even underlying schizophrenia based on some of the weird stuff he is saying which reminds me of somebody having delusional/hallucinatory episodes



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02 Dec 2022, 9:22 pm

I hate to admit it, but he sounds kinda like me whenever I experienced psychotic episodes. I never praised Hitler though.



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03 Dec 2022, 11:09 am

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At most these medications will put filters on him from expressing who he really is. He is too much of a celebrity to be able to lead a normal life.


You are getting mixed up between a lack of a filter/reduced inhibition and psychosis that leads to distorted thinking. Kanye is having psychotic grandiose delusions and is completely gone obsessive/compulsive driven by his own narcissism to draw on Hitler as some type of inspiration. In his condition he is getting exactly what he wants....global attention.

Strong doses of antipsychotics will at least normalise his behaviour even if it doesn't get rid of his narcissistic tendencies. I would also no be surprised in addition to bipolar disorder he also has schizotypal tendencies or even underlying schizophrenia based on some of the weird stuff he is saying which reminds me of somebody having delusional/hallucinatory episodes

Maybe, but if Donald Trump has a breakdown from all the losing and started saying bigoted stuff on this level about blacks, they would be not talking about putting him on meds and letting him reenter society. Plenty of evidence the Colorado Springs LBGTQ+ shooter is not of right mind and plenty of reason for him/they to be that way. Woe to anybody who tries to excuse that person. The defense attorneys probably will put up an insanity defense, it won’t work.


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