How common do men rape/sexually harass women?
The media portrays all men as rapists and all women as victims. Is rape and sexually harassment as common as the media claims it is? If so, why can't men control themselves? I'm a male and I would never want to do anything like that to anyone. I do believe it is overhyped and not as common as they say it is. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying that they portray all men as perverts.
I think its wrong to lump rape and sexual harassment together. Rape is violence. Sexual harassment can be relatively minor. Rape is traumatic whilst sexual harassment can be traumatic it can also be just mildly annoying.
I think the men who do rape and assault women are a small minority but repeat offenders. For instance if 1/10 women has been sexually assaulted that doesn't mean 1/10 men is a predator. It could be 1/100 who do it 10 times.
Pointless debate imo , nobody here will have exact facts so it will be opinions , then this thread will get ugly.
That's my prediction
And maybe I'm being literal but the media does not portray all men as rapists and all women as victims.
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That’s what I was thinking. Sensational stuff on the news or in movies does attract a lot of ratings and attention, so it might seem like it’s more common than it really is.
You’re more likely to remember something like that than something that’s inconsequential.
Sexual crimes do happen, though, and there does need to be discussion and awareness around this issue.
All men aren’t rapists but a few are.
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Trying to dig into the government statistics, and finding just the right set to answer to OP’s question is difficult. However, two legal definitions are given:
Rape: Forced sexual intercourse including both psychological coercion as well as physical force. Forced sexual intercourse means penetration by the offender(s). Includes attempted rapes, male as well as female victims, and both heterosexual and same sex rape. Attempted rape includes verbal threats of rape.
Sexual assault: A wide range of victimizations, separate from rape or attempted rape. These crimes include attacks or attempted attacks generally involving unwanted sexual contact between victim and offender. Sexual assaults may or may not involve force and include such things as grabbing or fondling. It also includes verbal threats.
Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics.
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1 in 3 women are raped, domestic abuse is higher in women than it is in men. More men go to prison than women do.
Of course I am not saying every man out there is violent and a misogynist and not every man out there is unable to control their dick and not every man is horny. Also studies have shown how rapists will admit to raping someone just as long as you don't call it that and mention the word.
Men can also be victims of abuse too and can also be sexually assaulted and be victims of domestic abuse. I am curious how common this actually is because I have never seen a statistic about it and every time it's brought up, it gets shot down fast by women feminists. It's like they don't want to believe men can be victims too.
Also I notice in society women are taught that all men are predators and horny and can't control themselves because we are told how to dress, are told how we might have sent the guy the wrong signals, and telling a child how they shall change how they dress because their body is changing and they have boys staring at them in class is teaching them men are perverts and predators and at the same time boys are being taught women are sluts and like to attract attention from them and it's their fault if they (the male) assault them and have sex with them and they are not accountable for their actions because the woman should not have gone out with him or flirted with him and stuff. This is what parents are teaching their kids. Sadly even women are okay with this because this is what they had been taught as well. My mom still lives this way because this is what she was taught and she passed it on down to me so now I am going to change it with my own daughter and not repeat the cycle that she must hide her body and be ashamed of it and must change how she dresses if she doesn't want unwanted attention. I mean this is normal clothes I am talking about. I am still find with schools having dress codes. Men also have dress codes too they have to follow so it's no different for females.
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1 in 3 women are raped, domestic abuse is higher in women than it is in men. More men go to prison than women do.
Of course I am not saying every man out there is violent and a misogynist and not every man out there is unable to control their dick and not every man is horny. Also studies have shown how rapists will admit to raping someone just as long as you don't call it that and mention the word.
Men can also be victims of abuse too and can also be sexually assaulted and be victims of domestic abuse. I am curious how common this actually is because I have never seen a statistic about it and every time it's brought up, it gets shot down fast by women feminists. It's like they don't want to believe men can be victims too.
Also I notice in society women are taught that all men are predators and horny and can't control themselves because we are told how to dress, are told how we might have sent the guy the wrong signals, and telling a child how they shall change how they dress because their body is changing and they have boys staring at them in class is teaching them men are perverts and predators and at the same time boys are being taught women are sluts and like to attract attention from them and it's their fault if they (the male) assault them and have sex with them and they are not accountable for their actions because the woman should not have gone out with him or flirted with him and stuff. This is what parents are teaching their kids. Sadly even women are okay with this because this is what they had been taught as well. My mom still lives this way because this is what she was taught and she passed it on down to me so now I am going to change it with my own daughter and not repeat the cycle that she must hide her body and be ashamed of it and must change how she dresses if she doesn't want unwanted attention. I mean this is normal clothes I am talking about. I am still find with schools having dress codes. Men also have dress codes too they have to follow so it's no different for females.
I don't think any rape statistics can ever be valid because its not something you can prove. The 1/3 women raped is highly doubtful though. I believe it comes from a study where it asked women if they have ever had sex whilst intoxicated and then the researchers concluded that was rape.
I think you are misreading people warning against the risk of rape as them justifying it.
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1 in 3 women are raped, domestic abuse is higher in women than it is in men. More men go to prison than women do.
Of course I am not saying every man out there is violent and a misogynist and not every man out there is unable to control their dick and not every man is horny. Also studies have shown how rapists will admit to raping someone just as long as you don't call it that and mention the word.
Men can also be victims of abuse too and can also be sexually assaulted and be victims of domestic abuse. I am curious how common this actually is because I have never seen a statistic about it and every time it's brought up, it gets shot down fast by women feminists. It's like they don't want to believe men can be victims too.
Also I notice in society women are taught that all men are predators and horny and can't control themselves because we are told how to dress, are told how we might have sent the guy the wrong signals, and telling a child how they shall change how they dress because their body is changing and they have boys staring at them in class is teaching them men are perverts and predators and at the same time boys are being taught women are sluts and like to attract attention from them and it's their fault if they (the male) assault them and have sex with them and they are not accountable for their actions because the woman should not have gone out with him or flirted with him and stuff. This is what parents are teaching their kids. Sadly even women are okay with this because this is what they had been taught as well. My mom still lives this way because this is what she was taught and she passed it on down to me so now I am going to change it with my own daughter and not repeat the cycle that she must hide her body and be ashamed of it and must change how she dresses if she doesn't want unwanted attention. I mean this is normal clothes I am talking about. I am still find with schools having dress codes. Men also have dress codes too they have to follow so it's no different for females.
I don't think any rape statistics can ever be valid because its not something you can prove. The 1/3 women raped is highly doubtful though. I believe it comes from a study where it asked women if they have ever had sex whilst intoxicated and then the researchers concluded that was rape.
I think you are misreading people warning against the risk of rape as them justifying it.
There’s no way of knowing exactly what they numbers are, but it is a very underreported crime.
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Sexual harassment, rape, abuse, or whatever you want to call it is a serious problem that needs to be addressed, but I think we have gotten so politically correct about it. Almost everything a man does or says to a woman is considered sexual harassment. Flirting is considered sexual harassment by today's standards. Yes it does happen and it does need to be talked about, but I don't believe it is as common as the media portrays it to be. When a woman accuses a man of rape, assault, or harassment without evidence, then that man's reputation and livelihood is destroyed. There have been women who have lied about being raped by certain men.
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Yeah...
This thread probably needs to be locked.
It’s rare for a woman to falsely accuse a man of that. Reporting a crime like this is a humiliating experience.
There are a variety of scenarios where there wouldn’t be a lot of evidence.
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This thread probably needs to be locked.
It’s rare for a woman to falsely accuse a man of that. Reporting a crime like this is a humiliating experience.
There are a variety of scenarios where there wouldn’t be a lot of evidence.
There is no way you can know its rare though. Most rape accusations do not lead to convictions for rape or the woman being convicted for false claims.
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This thread probably needs to be locked.
It’s rare for a woman to falsely accuse a man of that. Reporting a crime like this is a humiliating experience.
There are a variety of scenarios where there wouldn’t be a lot of evidence.
There is no way you can know its rare though. Most rape accusations do not lead to convictions for rape or the woman being convicted for false claims.
There are ways. I have done a lot of reading on this topic.
Many women worry that they won’t be believed, don’t think they can handle going through all that, and sometimes even blame themselves.
It’s not a psychologically simple or straightforward experience.
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I have been sexually harassed all my life, most of my generation's women dismissed this flippantly as "men just being men." That's what my mother said when I was sexually abused by my family doctor at the age of 12. That particular response though was not the norm at the time but rather my mother not having a clue that she was supposed to protect me.
Men who boast about their sexual conquests are applauded and women are often slandered for celebrating sex and are labelled sluts.
In this sexually permissive era young men are increasingly confused by the porn they watch, mistakenly thinking that what they watch many hours a day is what women actually want and like, and is the way a man/woman sexual encounter transpires in real life. It does not and should not. Women in porn are portrayed according to male fantasy. That's why men get hooked on it. I have yet to see a male porn star ask his female counterpart's permission before proceeding to pound away in all her available orifices.
On the other hand, it's shocking to discover that teenage girls are sexting and exchanging nude pics as young as 12. I think it's a losing battle to preserve sexual boundaries in a society that is hell bent on lifting all taboos.
Women are not blameless either, they dress provocatively in order to drive a man to distraction and then spitefully attack him if he shows interest. Women who deny this are not being totally honest imo. Many women are oblivious of the urgency and intensity of male sexuality, young girls equate sex with love, romance and caring, with young boys it's mainly purely a physical necessity.
Many false accusations of sexual harrassment have been proven in my country to be the result of a woman being rejected by the man so she wanted revenge. Careers and reputations are destroyed due to baseless accusations. Accusation is never proof of guilt. This makes it truly tragic because the serious cases of real sexual misconduct are not taken seriously. I think men don't have a clue what women want.
I smile a lot, at both men or women, that's my nature. I have had men coming on to me and saying " but you smiled at me, that means you want sex." No, it just means I'm having a good day and being friendly. WTF
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Ah! Here it is. It’s on the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission webpage.
Harassment is a form of employment discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, (ADEA), and the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, (ADA).
Harassment is unwelcome conduct that is based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. Harassment becomes unlawful where 1) enduring the offensive conduct becomes a condition of continued employment, or 2) the conduct is severe or pervasive enough to create a work environment that a reasonable person would consider intimidating, hostile, or abusive. Anti-discrimination laws also prohibit harassment against individuals in retaliation for filing a discrimination charge, testifying, or participating in any way in an investigation, proceeding, or lawsuit under these laws; or opposing employment practices that they reasonably believe discriminate against individuals, in violation of these laws.
Petty slights, annoyances, and isolated incidents (unless extremely serious) will not rise to the level of illegality. To be unlawful, the conduct must create a work environment that would be intimidating, hostile, or offensive to reasonable people.
Offensive conduct may include, but is not limited to, offensive jokes, slurs, epithets or name calling, physical assaults or threats, intimidation, ridicule or mockery, insults or put-downs, offensive objects or pictures, and interference with work performance. Harassment can occur in a variety of circumstances, including, but not limited to, the following:
* The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, an agent of the employer, a co-worker, or a non-employee.
* The victim does not have to be the person harassed, but can be anyone affected by the offensive conduct.
* Unlawful harassment may occur without economic injury to, or discharge of, the victim.
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This thread probably needs to be locked.
It’s rare for a woman to falsely accuse a man of that. Reporting a crime like this is a humiliating experience.
There are a variety of scenarios where there wouldn’t be a lot of evidence.
There is no way you can know its rare though. Most rape accusations do not lead to convictions for rape or the woman being convicted for false claims.
There are ways. I have done a lot of reading on this topic.
Many women worry that they won’t be believed, don’t think they can handle going through all that, and sometimes even blame themselves.
It’s not a psychologically simple or straightforward experience.
Yes there is no way to verify the resources you are reading from.
We can never know what percentage of rape claims are by actual victims or false accusers. There is just way to verify it.
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