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Are Aspies capable of understanding and using sarcasm and/or irony?
Sarcasm only 6%  6%  [ 6 ]
Irony only 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Sarcasm AND Irony 69%  69%  [ 75 ]
Neither 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Oh that's just sooooo great, yet another poll, JUST what this site needs!! ! Really!! !! :x 22%  22%  [ 24 ]
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23 Jan 2007, 10:35 pm

"Can Aspies do sarcasm and irony?"

No. Not at all.



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23 Jan 2007, 10:45 pm

Sometimes I have trouble telling when someone is being sarcastic, but once I establish that in my mind, it's pretty straightforward to understand them.


diseased wrote:
"Can Aspies do sarcasm and irony?"

No. Not at all.

Best quote evar.



23 Jan 2007, 11:02 pm

What a bunch of bullcrap. That is another sterotype about us. I can do sarcasm but I don't use it often because I have troubles undertstanding it myself but I still know some.


About irony, I don't really understand that word, is it the same as sarcasm so I don't know if I do it or not.



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23 Jan 2007, 11:07 pm

Like other responses here, I can use it but not really understand, unless someone uses a very obvious vioce tone. Most of the time, I'll just stare at someone dumbfounded, and ask if they are serious.



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23 Jan 2007, 11:13 pm

I use both all the time, especially sarcasm, and I have no problem picking up on either in books, film, or tv. In real life tho, I sometimes don't get sarcasm, epecially in text messages. I have even had to ask people if they meant what they said or were just being sarcastic. No one I know uses irony except me. Since I have studied writing and literature, and love British comedy, I have no problem comprehending it in entertainment.


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23 Jan 2007, 11:13 pm

I'm better with interpreting sarcasm than with irony because irony is more abstract. I'm VERY sarcastic, and since all of my friends are, I'm quite good at getting sarcasm. Now written sarcasm, on the other hand, is a completely different story. I rely on tone of voice, so without that, I miss lots of social cues...
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24 Jan 2007, 12:21 am

andy1976uk wrote:
Interesting.......would be interesting to know how Doc got that idea. Have you been told something like this before by a medical type?


It's one of those Myths of Autism still floating around, kinda like the "Oh, but you make eye contact; you can't possibly be autistic" or "You have a sense of humor! You're don't have Aspergers!". Basically, as a group, we may have more problems with getting or giving sarcasm or irony, but that's definitely not an absolute. I know many auties online who get and give both-- and very well at that! ;)

Althought admittedly, like others have said, I have no problems giving them (hey, I always understand my own jokes, too :lol: ), but sometimes I'm not always as quick to get sarcasm or irony.

It's all by degrees. Some people have more difficulties than others.

A good rule to go by for ASDs: THERE'S NO ABSOLUTES.


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24 Jan 2007, 12:22 am

Frankly, I'm a bit baffled as to how one can use irony. Irony just happens.

Now recognizing it, yeah... I can see that.


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24 Jan 2007, 12:36 am

I can do it I just generally can't understand it when someone else is doing it... I hope that makes sense.


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24 Jan 2007, 12:42 am

andy1976uk wrote:
Yes, it's another poll, but seeing as I'm now the most hated member of this site - thankyou so much ascan, roman, logitechdog and MrMark - I'm not really expecting any answers. I'll give it a shot anyway.

I ask this question because a psychologist has told me on a few occassions, "Hmmm, that's interesting, you're not supposed to be able to do that", referring to me being sarcastic and understanding irony. What is everyone's take on it? Can we do it? Have I been misdiagnosed? *preparing for wall of silence* :(


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24 Jan 2007, 1:11 am

I think aspies are capable of understanding sarcasm and irony, in a sense of being possible for them to learn how. However, they have to learn it intellectually and step-by-step, as opposed to picking it up intuitively, like NTs do.



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24 Jan 2007, 1:17 am

Sophist wrote:
Frankly, I'm a bit baffled as to how one can use irony. Irony just happens.

Now recognizing it, yeah... I can see that.


yeah, I can go with that, I don't have the power to wield irony



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24 Jan 2007, 3:10 am

Don't really understand the difference but I would say yes.


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24 Jan 2007, 3:33 am

Seigneur wrote:
Can do it but can't always recognize it.


Seconded (thirded?), with the proviso that I recognize it in literature, or even on the screen. I only have difficulty when it's another real physical person standing next to me. Perhaps because I don't pick up the facial or tonal cues, I don't know.

I know people often don't get my own scarcasm/irony when I try IRL, because my face and tone of voice just don't flash up JOKING for them. It's soo much easier online where you can just put an emoticon at the end of the statement to show the spirit in which you're writing it! Why can't it be like that offline?



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24 Jan 2007, 4:13 am

<sarcasm>no we cannot</sarcasm>
seems to work

No, I can't iron anything.



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24 Jan 2007, 4:15 am

Another blasted pole... at least it isn't pidgeon English boy that's making it.