Question about having sadism and ASD at the same time

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HeroOfHyrule
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29 Mar 2021, 12:27 pm

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If you are tormented by unwelcome thoughts, please consider the possibility that you might just have OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder) rather than something like "Antisocial personality disorder" -- as long as you're not doing anything actually harmful, like torturing animals. (Yes, it's possible for an autistic person to have "Antisocial personality disorder" too, but I strongly doubt that's the case for you.)

I'm wondering if this is the case. A lot of people with OCD have issues with worrying about hurting other people and children. Obsessions don't have to match your actual desires at all and that's why it's so stressful, because normal, empathetic people with OCD can constantly worry about doing uncharacteristic and/or unrealistic things like stabbing someone, accidentally downloading CP, etc.

I have OCD and have never hurt a child, but don't like being around kids because I'm worried I'll be accused of abusing one. I also worry about harming my family members and pets, even though I'd never do that.

Having OCD is hell and I'd honestly suggest considering that it could be the cause of at least some of your worries.


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29 Mar 2021, 1:39 pm

So, I need to learn about the fact that I just had an hallucination that I downloaded child porn and I am paranoid about it, especially because the police explained to my parents that I did nothing wrong.

But I am sexually attracted to children though. Is my case harmless?

I hope that I understand you better.



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29 Mar 2021, 1:56 pm

As long as you didn't REALLY download child porn, you're okay.

As long as you keep your fantasies to yourself, you're okay.

It's not okay when you actually try to fulfill those fantasies with actual children.



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29 Mar 2021, 2:07 pm

I feel related to children, because I have trouble communicating with people my age, but there is sexual tension with being related to children in my fantasies and that is not normal at all, especially because I am twenty years old.

It's kind of comorbidity traits of Pedophilic Disorder and ASD at the same time.

I fulfill actual children in my fantasies and sometimes talk to them in my brain and sometimes have sexual activites in my fantasies.

It's just fantasies, but I can see why it is not normal at all!



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29 Mar 2021, 2:22 pm

I think I have Delusional Disorder, because police officers explained to my parents that I did not do anything wrong.



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29 Mar 2021, 2:45 pm

If you didn't do it....you didn't do it.

If you did it, you did it......



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29 Mar 2021, 2:58 pm

It makes sense! But I felt like I hallucinated that I did something wrong.



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29 Mar 2021, 7:32 pm

I understand the fantasies and attraction that I have is not normal at all.

Some people might think that I am thinking about rape in my own fantasies and it logical, because minors, especially children can't consent to sex legally speaking. I don't know about 15-17 year olds, the age consent is different in each location when it comes to older minors, but most age of consent is 18.


But from my point of view, I have no intention of harming anyone, especially children. I just don't act on it and only do it in my brain.

I am sorry that I made you upset! I wanted to kill my bullies, because I felt so betrayed and deeply hurt!

I understand it is not a normal ASD behavior and I am aware that people with ASD tend to commit suicide than committed violent acts and are ten times more likely to be victims. I was just wandering if there are exceptions about people like me with ASD who have serious anger problems and Conduct Disorders.



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30 Mar 2021, 9:59 am

Sense the police officers though I did not do anything wrong and I am actually innocent, then I should go and see my psychiatrist. My delusions are very dangerous and not normal to have.


It is very bizarre if innocent people believed that they committed serous crimes.


I also should stop watching violent movies over and over again, because it may cause me stress and psychosis.

I also had an hallucination that I killed another child when I was four years old. (This psychosis could have been caused by fantasies of revenge)

These psychosis are very dangerous and not healthy at all!



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06 Apr 2021, 10:49 am

But to be honest, I did annoy and sometimes hurt the animals from my early childhood, NOT because I had Conduct Disorder -Antisocial Personality Disorder, but because I did not understand that annoying and hurting animals is bad.

I used to have an IQ of 69, learning disorders, diminished capacity and had a delusional childish fantasies from ages 0-8.

I still annoyed and hurt the animals until I developed mens rea and higher IQ and that is where I stopped annoying and hurting animals.



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06 Apr 2021, 10:57 am

That is a huge difference. People with Conduct Disorders on the other hand hurt or annoy their animals with mens rea for their own Delusion of grandeur and sadism.



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06 Apr 2021, 11:17 am

Some conduct and personality disorders also includes hidden and sadistic psychosis that may be a risk for criminality.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GmV7foe18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soiiG-wsHKU



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06 Apr 2021, 12:59 pm

Can Schizophrenia cause a person to commit a crime?

Yes? Maybe. In fact most people with mental health and developmental disorders, unless you have conduct disorders are less likely to commit crimes and are ten times more likely to be victims than the general population. It is externally rare for Schizophrenia to lead into murder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I



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06 Apr 2021, 1:03 pm

FranzOren wrote:
But to be honest, I did annoy and sometimes hurt the animals from my early childhood, NOT because I had Conduct Disorder -Antisocial Personality Disorder, but because I did not understand that annoying and hurting animals is bad.

I used to have an IQ of 69, learning disorders, diminished capacity and had a delusional childish fantasies from ages 0-8.

I still annoyed and hurt the animals until I developed mens rea and higher IQ and that is where I stopped annoying and hurting animals.

I think a lot of people do dumb things to animals when they're kids. I used to annoy the hell out of my cats until I was 14-15. lol



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06 Apr 2021, 1:39 pm

Thank you! I understood.

How do you like the study that I made and the videos I posted here?

It is extremely rare for Schizophrenia to turn into murder, but there some conduct and personality disorders that have some kind of Delusion of grandeur that they think they can get power by killing people.

I hope you found my study about psychopaths and sociopaths informative.

Most people with mental health and developmental disorders are ten times more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.



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06 Apr 2021, 9:10 pm

My theory, people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder have very High-functioning Schizophrenia.