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28 Dec 2021, 1:53 am

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What's the point of even making this thread?
He's migfed with a woman he liked. She obviously doesn't think he's good enough to be her first.

"Well, fine. No one will want you... Ever", he shouts as he stomps off.
He’s addressing to « virgins » without specifying genders but I don’t think women and men generally view virginity in the same way, for women usually “who” takes it is way more important than “when”.
If you read his other thread you'll see what I mean.

He's dripping with destain for her.
I know, because he's failing to see what losing virginity means from typical woman perspective.
Do women really consider loosing their virginity more important than men though? A woman gave her virginity to me and her reaction was like it was trying a new burger at Burger King... it was alright... not bad... doesn't seem like the kind of reaction that says it was important. I also talk to me women friends and they seem to view it the same way, as it was something to cross off the bucket list, but no biggie. Unless the women were hiding their true feelings about it?
Put it this way. There are currently young women auctioning their virginity online for close to a million dollars. And there are men all over the world who are willing to pay.

Conversely no woman in the history of mankind would pay money to access a male virgin as they will not get any pleasure.
What pleasure do men get from virgins? For a million dollars wouldn't they want someone with more experience who is better in the sack so to speak?
Biologically men are attracted to younger women because they are more fertile. It is a product of evolution. Also, vulnerability is a feminine trait. Lack of vulnerability is a masculine trait.

There could also be a situation where the man may want to psychologically revisit his childhood due to some emotional trauma. For example: A man who never had a girlfriend as a teenager.

Also, there is idea that the man is the one and only man because he is the best. He has beaten all the other men in a competition for a princess. As false as that seems, reality at it's core proves otherwise. He is in fact the one and only one to win the princess because there he is. It's antisocial and primal.

I am perfectly fine with experienced women. I just wanted to help explain it for someone who might not get it.
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28 Dec 2021, 1:59 pm

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I am 32 and still a virgin.  Been to house parties growing up but no girl has ever really given me the chance to have sex with them...
It seems obvious that you equate women with sex only, and not with friendship, love, respect, and mutual support.

It is no wonder you are still a virgin.



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28 Dec 2021, 2:58 pm

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I am 32 and still a virgin.  Been to house parties growing up but no girl has ever really given me the chance to have sex with them...
It seems obvious that you equate women with sex only, and not with friendship, love, respect, and mutual support.

It is no wonder you are still a virgin.


There is a psychological concept that a starving man only thinks about food. One thing that I have read is that being desparate is unattractive for men. That is something to take note of if someone did not know that.



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28 Dec 2021, 3:51 pm

JimJohn wrote:
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I am 32 and still a virgin.  Been to house parties growing up but no girl has ever really given me the chance to have sex with them...
It seems obvious that you equate women with sex only, and not with friendship, love, respect, and mutual support.  It is no wonder you are still a virgin.
There is a psychological concept that a starving man only thinks about food. One thing that I have read is that being desperate is unattractive for men.  That is something to take note of if someone did not know that.
I knew it already, and have told it to Jamesy.



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28 Dec 2021, 10:02 pm

yup, its meant to be cruel



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29 Dec 2021, 10:32 pm

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yup, its meant to be cruel

What is? Virginity?


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30 Dec 2021, 11:10 am

At this rate I will be the 40 year old virgin.

Except the fact that the actor Steve Carrell who played the virgin in the film actually lost his virginity a long time ago.



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30 Dec 2021, 11:16 am

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At this rate I will be the 40 year old virgin...
Only if you continue to obsess about it and otherwise do nothing.



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30 Dec 2021, 2:57 pm

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At this rate I will be the 40 year old virgin.

Except the fact that the actor Steve Carrell who played the virgin in the film actually lost his virginity a long time ago.


There is a London section on internationalsexguide.

I go to Germany currently and like that sort of thing better.

Are you against that? I would tell my whole story but it just isn’t a good idea.

The high dollar (pound) escorts in London might not be a bad way to go. Personally, I’d go to a RLD. You can do that with buddies. Groups of drinking Young English men were in Amsterdam when I used to visit there.



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31 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm

When it comes to ASD people still being virgins, is it really difficult to find other people with ASD or other disadvantages that may cause a person to, not have as high of standards when looking for a partner?



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01 Jan 2022, 11:25 am

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At this rate I will be the 40 year old virgin.

Except the fact that the actor Steve Carrell who played the virgin in the film actually lost his virginity a long time ago.


Go to the Philippines, someone will like you there and be open to have sex with you.

And no, I don’t mean prostitution.


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01 Jan 2022, 1:07 pm

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When it comes to ASD people still being virgins, is it really difficult to find other people with ASD or other disadvantages that may cause a person to, not have as high of standards when looking for a partner?


I think there are issues of fear and ego involved with people in these situations. I know I have those issues. I should stop posting. It would help to know your perspective to answer the question.

Personally, I feel like I have to jump through strange hoops to act upon sexual desires. Perhaps, to NT people the hoops don't seem strange. As far as a partner, I am not sure why I would want a partner for ever and ever. It seems convoluted. It seems like a sick narrative invented by a beaurocracy.

As a side note:

When I hear a question similiar to this one where someone implies it is not hard to find someone, I think that the perspective does not include people who are not on a sexual radar. When people think about having sex, some people are not on the radar. But to your point, I imagine having ASD doesn't not automatically take people off of the radar. I am sure it is more self inflicted or things that appear self inflicted. I apologize if this is stupid or not reflective of reality.



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01 Jan 2022, 1:17 pm

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When it comes to ASD people still being virgins, is it really difficult to find other people with ASD or other disadvantages that may cause a person to, not have as high of standards when looking for a partner?


I think there are issues of fear and ego involved with people in these situations. I know I have those issues. I should stop posting. It would help to know your perspective to answer the question.

Personally, I feel like I have to jump through strange hoops to act upon sexual desires. Perhaps, to NT people the hoops don't seem strange. As far as a partner, I am not sure why I would want a partner for ever and ever. It seems convoluted. It seems like a sick narrative invented by a beaurocracy.

As a side note:

When I hear a question similiar to this one where someone implies it is not hard to find someone, I think that the perspective does not include people who are not on a sexual radar. When people think about having sex, some people are not on the radar. But to your point, I imagine having ASD doesn't not automatically take people off of the radar. I am sure it is more self inflicted or things that appear self inflicted. I apologize if this is stupid or not reflective of reality.


Oh okay, thanks for your perspective. What do you mean by this " It seems like a sick narrative invented by a beaurocracy."?



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01 Jan 2022, 2:28 pm

ironpony wrote:
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What's the point of even making this thread?


He's migfed with a woman he liked. She obviously doesn't think he's good enough to be her first.

"Well, fine. No one will want you... Ever", he shouts as he stomps off.


He’s addressing to « virgins » without specifying genders but I don’t think women and men generally view virginity in the same way, for women usually “who” takes it is way more important than “when”.


If you read his other thread you'll see what I mean.

He's dripping with destain for her.


I know, because he's failing to see what losing virginity means from typical woman perspective.


Do women really consider loosing their virginity more important than men though? A woman gave her virginity to me and her reaction was like it was trying a new burger at Burger King... it was alright... not bad... doesn't seem like the kind of reaction that says it was important. I also talk to me women friends and they seem to view it the same way, as it was something to cross off the bucket list, but no biggie. Unless the women were hiding their true feelings about it?

Well, lets say that women want men to actually feel the same about their virginity as they do about theirs. If she sees it as a very important thing, itll be easier to trust and admire if the man thinks the same about his, but then if he sees it as way too important compared to how she sees hers then hes an expensive prude and for a man to be that feminine and difficult he might as well be losing it with a guy or someone else.

If he doesnt value his virginity, he can be seen as uninterested in who he has sex with, or uninterested in the value of the other person thats beyond sex, and in important depth of connection between two people which is also the most common and multilevel pleasant way people get turned on through. And if she wants more out of it, shes gonna want more out of him.

If she logically understands virginity is nothing special, but has feelings about it whether she likes it or not, or likes it as a thing and brings no insecurities to her or as being the only woman, its clear she values it. And if the interaction is supposed to be one based on feelings, if it fails to be the experience she expected it to be -> :( She can make connections between her not feeling the right physical feelings and mental thrills and it not actually being something he cares about, wants to or can give. But at the same time its easy for some women to read a man's true thinking patterns and probably why she wants (or doesn't want) to know him first

A virgin could for example not believe in the exploration of the body, but the exploration of the soul, an expert at mental strengths which is great in relationships regardless of the kind and admirable, and he might not be prone to extremist or vicious behavior: smoking, getting drunk, being promscuous, including involving himself in drugs and other illegal endeavors, be nerdy and smart and not easily liked, introverted and a good get-along with them. He could be quiet, shy, cute, calm, genuine and transparent in his feelings, ah so warm, artistic, sensitive, distinguish colors and can explain flavors, have his own style that isn't "whatever everyones wearing at the same party" and be eccentric. He could lack manipulative skills or not believe in manipulation and gameplay, except when it involves consoles. He could collect weird stuff and talk about it constantly (like bellybutton lint or two-headed women pictures) - okay, thats not something to be proud of, lol. He could wear glasses and like to read interesting things.


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01 Jan 2022, 8:53 pm

I honestly don't understand men who are wrecks and dont care about women, but want to meet them just for experience or to feel better about themselves in life cause otherwise hey feel like failures, but in doing so theyre by definition worse, because being a douche is worse than being a virgin.


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01 Jan 2022, 10:15 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
At this rate I will be the 40 year old virgin.

Except the fact that the actor Steve Carrell who played the virgin in the film actually lost his virginity a long time ago.


Go to the Philippines, someone will like you there and be open to have sex with you.

And no, I don’t mean prostitution.


He should do that but he won't. So his prophecy might come to pass after all.


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