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24 Jan 2012, 11:58 am

Wouldn't it be wonderful if people practiced their various religions quietly at home, quietly in their churches, synagogues, mosques etc and never inflicted their beliefs upon others in the Public Domain.

No public acts of proselytizing, no attempts to make converts .....? None whatsoever.

And most important of all, make the Public Schools religion free in the entirety....

Wouldn't that be wonderful??

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24 Jan 2012, 12:06 pm

Kinda defeats the purpose of "religion" etymologically speaking, in a way. (I will admit that practicing at home can work though)

Still, building places of worship and cult is a way to occupy space. =/



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24 Jan 2012, 12:21 pm

What if we build churches based around the idea that we don't know what the hell is going on. I might be for teaching that in school.


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24 Jan 2012, 12:57 pm

Yes, yes it would.

But how do we accommodate religious traditions that hold that conversion is a necessary facet of their faith? I would take a very narrow view of the "Public Domain" and restrict it to government. But in that case, are much better off than we are today?


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24 Jan 2012, 1:16 pm

The Christian attempts to put prayer into schools run directly counter to biblical teachings. Jesus said prayer should be a private affair devoid of public display: "And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room (or closet.) and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret..." (Matthew 6:5-6 RSV).

Public prayer forces the peers of school children to jump on the band wagon and pray. We are all aware that the church is simply a business which employs tactics similar to that of tobacco industries in recruiting consumers. Get the kids while they are young and vulnerable so that they become donating members of the church when they reach adulthood. I find it humorous that other businesses warn their consumers on the package that it is dangerous to one’s health while Churches don’t put warning labels on the bible for the pornography and immorality it contains. The psychological damage organized religion causes is notably prevalent. Cancer from smoking and cirrhosis from drinking is JUST AS HARMFUL as the psychosis believers develop concerning reality. The “I see demons” complex is more rampant in Christians then it is in acid dropping space cadets. No joke, thats the purpose of exorcism, to get rid of the "demons"


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24 Jan 2012, 1:19 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Wouldn't it be wonderful if people practiced their various religions quietly at home, quietly in their churches, synagogues, mosques etc and never inflicted their beliefs upon others in the Public Domain.

No public acts of proselytizing, no attempts to make converts .....? None whatsoever.

And most important of all, make the Public Schools religion free in the entirety....

Wouldn't that be wonderful??

ruveyn


It would, unreservedly and truly.

I take it you're a big fan of Pat Condell then? ;)



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24 Jan 2012, 2:44 pm

It would be awesome. No more listening to the nutters.


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24 Jan 2012, 3:02 pm

What if people outside of those places still chose to talk about it? Would they be punished?


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24 Jan 2012, 4:33 pm

visagrunt wrote:
Yes, yes it would.

But how do we accommodate religious traditions that hold that conversion is a necessary facet of their faith? I would take a very narrow view of the "Public Domain" and restrict it to government. But in that case, are much better off than we are today?


Tell them to move to another country.

The public is any area or set of institutions not owned or operated privately. Like the streets. The streets are public property.

If someone wants to pray he can do it silently to himself, or go to a privately owned church.

Religion is private and has no place in public.

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24 Jan 2012, 4:33 pm

Sounds like a great place to live


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24 Jan 2012, 4:36 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Sounds like a great place to live


Yes, doesn't it? Wouldn't it be wonderful.....?

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24 Jan 2012, 7:23 pm

It surely would...................................



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24 Jan 2012, 10:51 pm

Unfortunately for many of the uber-religious cultures who think that just isn't enough. Too many people think they have a divine mandate to proselytize and strive towards political and cultural dominion, peaceful coexistence be damned. It seems the Big Two religions are the primary offenders, though one of them has toned itself down somewhat since the European "Age of Reason" gave it a good beating.



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24 Jan 2012, 10:58 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Wouldn't it be wonderful if people practiced their various religions quietly at home, quietly in their churches, synagogues, mosques etc and never inflicted their beliefs upon others in the Public Domain. No public acts of proselytizing, no attempts to make converts .....? None whatsoever. And most important of all, make the Public Schools religion free in the entirety.... Wouldn't that be wonderful?? ruveyn

It would be heav ... er ... I mean ... an ideal situation!

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24 Jan 2012, 11:22 pm

marshall wrote:
Unfortunately for many of the uber-religious cultures who think that just isn't enough. Too many people think they have a divine mandate to proselytize and strive towards political and cultural dominion, peaceful coexistence be damned. It seems the Big Two religions are the primary offenders, though one of them has toned itself down somewhat since the European "Age of Reason" gave it a good beating.


To proselytize is to commit assault and is an obnoxious nuisance. I wish there were a way to make it illegal, without interfering with freedom of speech. But I do not see how that can be done.

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25 Jan 2012, 1:55 am

It would also somewhat cause problems for employers seeking employees, no? =/