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08 Nov 2015, 4:36 am

That phrase sounds sexist and is derogatory and I feel offended by it, but yet several SJWs use that term time and time again to make themselves to feel special when ironically they are supposed to be against sexism but are being sexist themselves.


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08 Nov 2015, 11:00 am

What's a SJW?


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08 Nov 2015, 11:23 am

SilverProteus wrote:
What's a SJW?


I found this definition from Urban Dictionary - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJW


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11 Nov 2015, 1:15 am

It seems to be ok for society to be sexist against males by saying derogatory statements like, that is so male, oh how male of you, but never the other way around, oh how male of you, that is so male, all men are scum, need I go more? I am sick of it and fed up with it it is sexist end of story! Nobody seems to care about sexism against males but I do and yess it is offensive but nobody cares, all they care about is sexism against women but yet sexism against men exists but nobody else cares. Its sexist, its BS I am tired of it and very few feminist wish to step in on this matter for most of them are the perpetrators of saying that is so male!


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15 Nov 2015, 11:23 pm

I find the term "SJW" to be incredibly annoying, since it's basically been used to discredit anyone who fights for social justice, including egalitarians and actual social workers, by associating them with the few censorship-supporting nut jobs nesting in the dark corners of Twitter and Tumblr.

With that said, it is pretty infuriating when double standards come into play. If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander, I say.


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15 Nov 2015, 11:37 pm

i often kid with my husband that he's "such a guy". i guess it's sexist, but he takes no offense.



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15 Nov 2015, 11:47 pm

Majority of rapists - Male
Majority of terrorists - Male
Majority of murderers - Male
Majority of wars started by - Males
More likely to be aggressive - Males
Less likely to show emotions or feelings - Males
More likely to commit domestic violence - Males
More likely to sexually harass females - Males
More likely to be dangerous to women - Males
Would not let women vote for decades - Males
Makes more money for doing the same or less amount of work - Males



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16 Nov 2015, 12:01 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
Majority of rapists - Male
Majority of terrorists - Male
Majority of murderers - Male
Majority of wars started by - Males
More likely to be aggressive - Males
Less likely to show emotions or feelings - Males
More likely to commit domestic violence - Males
More likely to sexually harass females - Males
More likely to be dangerous to women - Males
Would not let women vote for decades - Males
Makes more money for doing the same or less amount of work - Males


Are you trying to say that prejudice against men is justified because of these things? By your logic, prejudice against Muslims and black people should be justified, since black people commit the majority of crimes (At least in the States), and Muslims commit the majority of terrorist attacks.


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16 Nov 2015, 9:19 am

Remember kids: it's only sexist if it is aimed towards a woman, just as it is only racist if aimed towards a non-white [/sarcasm]



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16 Nov 2015, 10:25 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
Majority of rapists - Male

Might be true. Somewhat muddied by the fact that most legal definitions of rape includes the forcible penetration with a penis or an object in a non-consenting partner. A definition that almost entirely excludes female perpetrators (who can force full-fledged intercourse on an unwilling or even unconscious partner, and then only be convicted of sexual assault.) I would argue that if the definition is changed to something like "sexual intercourse with a non-consenting individual", the numbers would even out considerably. It's also worth pointing out that the whole "all men are potential rapists" is a lie bordering on the slanderous; 4% of men possess the cerebral makeup (which is detectable) that make them a potential rapist, and not even all of these men are rapists. 90% of rapes comitted by male perpetrators are by men in this 4% category, and most rapists are repeat offenders, which means that the actual number of rapists is even lower than the stats suggest.


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Majority of terrorists - Male

Even if you could show me that there's an overwhelming majority of men comitting or supporting the comitting of various politically or religiously motivated crimes (which I doubt you could), this means nothing.


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Majority of murderers - Male

See above. Even further muddied by the fact that when women want someone dead, they often get a man to do it for them.


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More likely to be aggressive - Males

Now you're arguing that biology is somehow a fault on mens part? Seriously? Unsurprisingly, men have higher levels of male sex hormone, testosterone. This is the reason for our greater muscular strength, our greater degree of competitiveness and, yes our greater tendency towards aggression. This increased competitiveness is also the reason why you're not likely to ever see 50/50 gender representation in positions of political or corporate power; getting to the top means working hard and fighting against a lot of stiff competition. It's not that women are worse at it, or that all the evil males are oppressing them, it's that fewer women than men have the inclination to do it.


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Majority of wars started by - Males

See above.


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Less likely to show emotions or feelings - Males

Also a question of biology. After puberty, men have a much harder time doing things like crying, because of hormones. Men are actually more likely to show their love, their hate and everything inbetween through their actions rather than just displays. Why is this bad?


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More likely to commit domestic violence - Males

See this thread: viewtopic.php?t=297315


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More likely to sexually harass females - Males

The majority of men are straight. Thus, of the men that are inclined to sexually harass at all, most of them would harass females. It would be just as true to say that people who sexually harass men are more likely to be female.


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More likely to be dangerous to women - Males

Complete and utter lie. A man spotted in public hurting a woman will be mobbed by other men and beaten to a pulp. A woman engaging in the same behaviour might at worst have to put up with people filming it on their phones. Women are more scared of being mugged and assaulted, but men are wildly overrepresented as victims of both crimes.


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Would not let women vote for decades - Males

The vote is a complex issue more related to class and legislation than to gender. The short version is that women didn't have the vote because women didn't have the draft, as well as being exempt from several other social and legal responsibilities.


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Makes more money for doing the same or less amount of work - Males


Pretty much a straight up lie.

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Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct.


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16 Nov 2015, 11:41 am

Oh well....we're all beasts!

What can I say? :P



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16 Nov 2015, 12:10 pm

As white males, we have a bit of history, and I guess it's just time to let the others vent a bit, and once we all calmed down, and the paygap doesn't exist anymorw, we can start treating each other as equals.

And I also know that highlighting differences by pointing out what is considered male and what not is counterproductive to women trying to get ahead, but struggling with being either considered too female or too butch. They're not helping their case by pointing things out. But that's just my opinion.


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16 Nov 2015, 7:17 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
That phrase sounds sexist and is derogatory and I feel offended by it, but yet several SJWs use that term time and time again to make themselves to feel special when ironically they are supposed to be against sexism but are being sexist themselves.


Where do you live? All these posts about shaming men, stark raving mad feminists, shaming caucasians, etc.. I have never seen or experienced these things first hand in my life.

If someone said to me "that's so male", I would probably sincerely say thank you. I was born a guy and I make no apologies about who I am.



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16 Nov 2015, 7:26 pm

Most crimes are not committed by blacks.



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16 Nov 2015, 7:31 pm

That's true.



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16 Nov 2015, 7:57 pm

em_tsuj wrote:
Most crimes are not committed by blacks.


Really? I just thought I heard a statistic once that said they did. Oh well, my point still stands.


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