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10 Jul 2021, 11:36 pm

I don't think I'd do well in jury duty! Thank goodness I never had to do that! (I'm not registered to vote and don't have a driver's license.)



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11 Jul 2021, 12:47 am

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I think we are getting into "Every Autistic is different" territory.
Whether a specific Autistic was or was not suitable for serving on a jury should--I think--be determined on a case-by-case basis. Some would make excellent jurors.

Some would but since it's hard to concretely measure, the declaration of autism when first reporting for jury duty is probably enough to disqualify you in many jurisdictions irrespective of your individual capacity and circumstance. You could theoretically be jeopardising the outcome of the trial, especially if they are found guilty and his/her lawyer digs into your life for purposes of appeal should the case be significant enough.
How could you being Autistic jeopardize the outcome of the trial?

The mental faculties of anyone who's autistic will be deemed incompatible with what's required to interpret the evidence presented and come to a conclusion that, when adhering to neurotypical standards of thinking, is reasonably formed after giving (sub)conscious consideration to even things that are neurotypically innate like euphemisms, innuendos, facial expressions, etc. All of these little nuances can be make or break a trial. It's important someone doesn't have a 'miswired' brain.

The Achilles' heel for autistic people is that the reality of NTs and those on the spectrum differ entirely beyond nurture and nature, meaning it's probably ideal to have autistic jurors if the defendant is also; but that should be optional for all parties involved.
I disagree. I understand your point and I respect it but I personally don't agree with it.


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11 Jul 2021, 2:39 am

due to my arthritis and difficulty in walking the 3+ blocks [no more jury parking] to the courthouse, i have been given a year's excuse. i would not mind a permanent exemption.



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11 Jul 2021, 2:57 am

auntblabby wrote:
due to my arthritis and difficulty in walking the 3+ blocks [no more jury parking] to the courthouse, i have been given a year's excuse. i would not mind a permanent exemption.

Fnord has outlined an exemption method on page 1 of this thread, though you'd still have to go there once.

I'm stuck in the USA because of Covid, and wouldn't be allowed to "serve" here, which I'm not unhappy about. If I got drafted in for UK jury service, obviously I couldn't do it, so if it came up I'd probably just worry about it and hope that they wouldn't attack me for not complying when I do get back to the UK. Authorities can be awkward things, but I don't suppose they'd bother. They say on the electoral register forms that you can be prosecuted for not filling it in, but I ignored those a couple of times and after a bit of weak coercion they let it go. I guess I was exempt last time because I wasn't there, so I guess the same goes for jury service.



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11 Jul 2021, 3:02 am

^^^i have employed said technique a few times before, it worked.



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11 Jul 2021, 9:52 am

I have better things to be doing than serve on a jury



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11 Jul 2021, 11:04 am

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11 Jul 2021, 11:19 am

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I disagree. I understand your point and I respect it but I personally don't agree with it.

It's the position of many localities and their respective jurisprudence. You can disagree with it but ultimately you're contending that you're able to understand technicalities that may not be easily understood by someone with autism in the first place. The outcome of a trial could literally hinge on a tidbit that you or someone else on the spectrum struggles with comprehending.
I am really glad to know it's not your personal position. It's a shame that localities could be so incredibly ignorant and arrogant especially considering the fact that many judges and lawyers and people who create those technical terms are, in fact, Autistic.


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