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17 Jul 2021, 3:16 am



But mcdonald trump is all 3 pigs in one...


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17 Jul 2021, 3:22 am

I mean pink floyd are old boomers...yet seems their same age boomers they were singing to didn't get the message they were putting out. As we can see roger waters the most active member from the original line up is certainly no friend of trump, yet unfortunately I cannot help thinking a lot of the fans they were singing to still went to the Trump side.

I think it was recent roger waters got asked to use his music for a facebook promotion by mark zuckerberg and he just straight up said 'f**k you, no' I thought it was cool.


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17 Jul 2021, 6:34 am

Just researched the song on the web. One commentator said that the song references both "the Three Little Pigs", and the Pig characters in the Orwell novel "Animal Farm". That its about polticians who exploit the fears of the masses to stay in power, and who enrich themselves at others expense. So..yeah...that sounds like a certain POTUS of the 21st century. The song was actually directed against three figures in Seventies Britain. One is actually obliquely named in the song.

The song has the line "youre a Whitehouse". Nothing to do with the place that Trump used to live at in Washington. It was a reference to Mary Whitehouse. She was a political activist for conservative causes in Britain in the Seventies (kind of a British Jerry Falwell). So that line looked like it was predicting that a pig would someday be in the Oval Office. But no..its just a funny coincidence. :) But then...if the shoe fits.



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17 Jul 2021, 8:37 am

At the time this song was recorded, the UK was sharply divided between poor whites and well-to-do whites. Party affiliation was almost entirely dictated by circumstance of birth, with rare exceptions e.g. Tony Benn. I imagine this song was mostly an example of preaching to the converted as the audience could be assumed hostile to the political figures it lampoons but at the same time without any real hope of fundamental change in the political system. It's not shocking that nowadays those same people might support UKIP and Brexit (OK I don't want to naïvely exaggerate how many people openly support UKIP but you should know what I mean) as to them it's still an expression of resentment towards the élite.

I think the US has changed much more in that there was a time when support for somebody like Trump would have been limited to a marginalized group, but is now mainstream. In the decades after WWII we (Americans) believed we functioned at a higher level than most of the rest of the world but now that delusion has evaporated for good or for ill and we're much more like everyone else. For example, we once looked at Europe in the 1920s and 1930s and felt that Fascism was something that couldn't happen here, but now we know differently.

To conclude, I don't think this has much to do with Boomers ignoring or turning their backs on the message from artists they admired in their youth, at least not in the UK.


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17 Jul 2021, 11:31 am





Lyrics to the Song 'Sheep' By 'Pink Floyd'

True Matches What Happens to 'Those

Sheep' Who Follow 'The Trump'
Refusing To Get Vaccinated

Taking Residence

Still Blind (And Potentially Very Dead) on 5th Avenue...

Truly Hopeless As Even 'The Trump' Doesn't Believe
in 'Sheep' And Got Vaccinated Yet Of Course He Doesn't

BelieVE iN

And Worship After Death More Than Life God Yes

Source of A First Case Bleed For 'Sheep' Still Now...

"Hopelessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise

The look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by
With bright knives he releaseth my soul

He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
He converteth me to lamb cutlets
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger
When cometh the day we lowly ones

Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old"

Hmm... if i Was A Conspiracy Theory Minded
Fellow (Which i AM NOT) This Story Might
Have A Twist; Perhaps It Was the 'Trump
Plan' All Along to Thin Out 'The Flock'...

Wouldn't Be Hard to Do; That

Much is Frigging Obvious Now;

Wouldn't Take 9 Dimensional
Chess; Just A Despicable Demagogue Leader And
(Sheep) Minions to Breed Then Voluntarily Thin Out;
Not Even A Slaughterhouse; Minions Do All the Non-Work to Make It Happen

Perhaps 'They' Transform into 'Goats' Before 'They Burn'; Essence Counts More Than Metaphor For Real



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