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18 Jul 2021, 7:57 am

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/william- ... 6tyn2mu4mo

Good riddance.


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18 Jul 2021, 8:11 am

Too bad his beliefs are still alive.


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18 Jul 2021, 5:03 pm

Agreed with both of you.

An interesting history of alt-right politics in America.


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19 Jul 2021, 7:44 am

I thought Joe Biden was America's racist Grandpa.



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20 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
I thought Joe Biden was America's racist Grandpa.


Let's see... Biden served as VP for America's first black President, then chose a black woman as his VP upon getting the Democratic nomination. He chose to run for the White House after Trump called Nazis at Charlottesville good people. He made Juneteenth a national holiday. So, how is he racist, again?


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20 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm

Death doesn't come soon enough for some people.


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21 Jul 2021, 10:02 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I thought Joe Biden was America's racist Grandpa.


Let's see... Biden served as VP for America's first black President, then chose a black woman as his VP upon getting the Democratic nomination. He chose to run for the White House after Trump called Nazis at Charlottesville good people. He made Juneteenth a national holiday. So, how is he racist, again?

Well he picked Kamala only on the basis of her race and gender.
He said you can't go into a 7/11 without a slight Indian accent
Back in 77 he said forced busing would turn schools into racial jungles
He had some great things to say about Robert KKK Byrd at his funeral. (Democrat senator and Klan leader)
Biden referred to Obama as the first mainstream clean, articulate black guy in DC
Biden has racist diarrhea of the mouth by anyones standards.



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21 Jul 2021, 10:38 am

A fun thing to do is lay that Biden quote on a Democrat, and assign it to Trump. When they stop frothing at the mouth, inform them ot Biden who said it.

If they don't belive you, send them this link:

https://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/


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21 Jul 2021, 11:33 am

Did Biden say racist things? Yes.

Were they his true opinions/reactions to things OR is he just a politician who knows how to speak to his audience? I Don't know.

Is it possible he simply spoke the racist language of the time in order to speak to his audience, racist Americans? Maybe.

Is it probable? Eh, probably not - he's probably just as off the cuff racist as many others.

Can people learn, change, and evolve their position on racism over time? Yes, absolutely.

Is Biden less racist today than he was 44 years ago? I believe so. And so is America and so are Americans - just not all of them.. not the red hat wearing ones, anyways.


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21 Jul 2021, 1:07 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Did Biden say racist things? Yes.

Were they his true opinions/reactions to things OR is he just a politician who knows how to speak to his audience? I Don't know.

Is it possible he simply spoke the racist language of the time in order to speak to his audience, racist Americans? Maybe.

Is it probable? Eh, probably not - he's probably just as off the cuff racist as many others.

Can people learn, change, and evolve their position on racism over time? Yes, absolutely.

Is Biden less racist today than he was 44 years ago? I believe so. And so is America and so are Americans - just not all of them.. not the red hat wearing ones, anyways.

Others don't seem to get the same grace as Biden. Why is that?
Trent Lott made an of the cuff remark about Strom Thurman in 2002 that someone, somewhere decided was racist and it ruined his political career. TV personality Paula Deen was accused of using a racial slur (twenty years earlier while being robbed by a black man) and it destroyed her brand. But, only the left is allowed to grow and evolve. Others are condemned as racists for life.
The truth is that "racism" is used as a cudgel against anyone who dares to stray from the plantation of the ideological left. Its a tactic laid out in Saul Alinski's book; Rules for Radicals which most of you have been trained to use without even knowing it.



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21 Jul 2021, 3:06 pm

1. Of course Biden is racist. People really still be acting like Biden isn't racist? Old southern racist did not stop being racist by being a black president's VP or by receiving a majority of the black vote--something plenty of the people who voted for him realize.
2. Stop with the whataboutism. Conservative whataboutism is almost a running joke at this point.
3. It isn't so much that only people on the left are allowed to grow and change, so much as it is that in my experience people on the left are more likely to change. Conservatives in my experience have a tendency to respond to accusations of racism by getting defensive and digging in their heels.
4. It's against the rules to celebrate someone's death, so I will just say that I am only glad he is getting into the afterlife that someone of his strong moral fortitude deserves.


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21 Jul 2021, 4:47 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
I thought Joe Biden was America's racist Grandpa.


Let's see... Biden served as VP for America's first black President, then chose a black woman as his VP upon getting the Democratic nomination. He chose to run for the White House after Trump called Nazis at Charlottesville good people. He made Juneteenth a national holiday. So, how is he racist, again?

Well he picked Kamala only on the basis of her race and gender.
He said you can't go into a 7/11 without a slight Indian accent
Back in 77 he said forced busing would turn schools into racial jungles
He had some great things to say about Robert KKK Byrd at his funeral. (Democrat senator and Klan leader)
Biden referred to Obama as the first mainstream clean, articulate black guy in DC
Biden has racist diarrhea of the mouth by anyones standards.


No, Biden's an old guy who isn't particularly politically correct.
Sure, he said stupid things back in 1977 - - but that was back in 1977! People can change and evolve, and I believe he did.
Yes, he said good things about Robert Byrd - - a man who had spent the rest of his life apologizing for his racist past.
I don't care about the things he had once said, but what he does and says now.


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21 Jul 2021, 5:22 pm

They're all horrible people, every Democrat, every Republican. None of them give two flying f***s about any of us. That's what makes partisan politics so hilarious.


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21 Jul 2021, 5:31 pm

I hope those diverting attention away from the old S.O.B. who had supported and financed organized hate realize their doing so implies they sympathize with him. And no, I don't mean Joe Biden.


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21 Jul 2021, 6:05 pm

You could be talking about both of them. I condemn them equally.

To answer the question that's surely coming, I refer you to the infamous 1994 crime bill, for which Biden was one of the authors. It's passing led to a mass incaceration of people, mostly POC, for minor, mostly drug crimes.

He's never apologized for that.


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21 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
You could be talking about both of them. I condemn them equally.

To answer the question that's surely coming, I refer you to the infamous 1994 crime bill, for which Biden was one of the authors. It's passing led to a mass incaceration of people, mostly POC, for minor, mostly drug crimes.

He's never apologized for that.


But was the Crime bill purposely racist, or was that the unintended outcome?
But seriously, do you have anything to say about that racist old bastard who lived too long to give his support to racist causes?


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