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30 Oct 2021, 12:46 pm

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Growing up I had to deal with people who thought it was just so much fun to assault me, as well as steal and destroy my things. Nothing was ever done about it and they probably think they did nothing wrong.


I'm glad I learned to fight back so that the unresolved anger of childhood experiences isn't motivating me to support barbarity as an adult.


Now I own guns so bring it on.



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30 Oct 2021, 12:48 pm

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Well, let's have a happy medium, and cane sweatshop owners. :mrgreen:


Needs more democracy, the workers vote on what is to become of the former owners of their now worker-owned and democratically managed factory. 8)


It wouldn't last a year before going under unless they adopted their managers ways. Read Animal Farm.



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30 Oct 2021, 1:15 pm

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Clinton remembered what it felt like to be caned by an Arkansas granny and felt sympathy.
Their preference was a keen peach switch to the back of the calves.


Clinton was sympathetic being a criminal himself and a wife cheating scum bag. His pasty thighs should have been split open on the frame as well.



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30 Oct 2021, 1:37 pm

Axeman wrote:
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Well, let's have a happy medium, and cane sweatshop owners. :mrgreen:


Needs more democracy, the workers vote on what is to become of the former owners of their now worker-owned and democratically managed factory. 8)


It wouldn't last a year before going under unless they adopted their managers ways. Read Animal Farm.


You're aware Orwell was a socialist criticizing a certain school of thought within socialism, and not someone condemning socialism as a whole, right? :scratch:

"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism as I understand it"- George Orwell


Axeman wrote:
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I'm glad I learned to fight back so that the unresolved anger of childhood experiences isn't motivating me to support barbarity as an adult.


Now I own guns so bring it on.


Unintentional satire is best satire. :lol:


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30 Oct 2021, 2:36 pm

Axeman wrote:
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Clinton remembered what it felt like to be caned by an Arkansas granny and felt sympathy.
Their preference was a keen peach switch to the back of the calves.


Clinton was sympathetic being a criminal himself and a wife cheating scum bag. His pasty thighs should have been split open on the frame as well.

Bet you have also done something worthy of a good whack with a stick.


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30 Oct 2021, 5:08 pm

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And how would you manage that? Are you a mafia boss?


I'm pretty sure a goblin with a grudge would be capable of disposing of an adversary they could physically locate. I mean, if a stalker can do it the matter of what motivates said stalker is secondary.


You should be on a watch list.


Thought crime? :nerdy:


It's called a crime of intent, which you can indeed be imprisoned for. I'm betting you dream about gunning down sweat shop owners and others not with your Neo Marxist garbage.


Well, let's have a happy medium, and cane sweatshop owners. :mrgreen:


In countries that have them, sweat shops provide needed employment to youth with few other options, prostitution being the main one.


What they need to do is unionize, like employees forced to work in inhumane conditions have done in the west.


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30 Oct 2021, 6:28 pm

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You're aware Orwell was a socialist criticizing a certain school of thought within socialism, and not someone condemning socialism as a whole, right? :scratch:

"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism as I understand it"- George Orwell


I've always found that to be an interesting story, how Orwell went off to the Spanish civil war filled with romantic notions of fighting the fascists, only to find himself witnessing the internal purges conducted by the Stalinist elements and eventually was himself the target of the NKVD operating in the country, and escapes to write Animal Farm and 1984 to warn against what he's seen. Unlike many communists/socialists of the era, he was ahead of the curve in recognizing what was brewing in the USSR, quite a few of them rationalized away the show trials of the 30s and the Great Terror, or the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, till well past the end of the 2nd world war.


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30 Oct 2021, 6:42 pm

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You're aware Orwell was a socialist criticizing a certain school of thought within socialism, and not someone condemning socialism as a whole, right? :scratch:

"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism as I understand it"- George Orwell


I've always found that to be an interesting story, how Orwell went off to the Spanish civil war filled with romantic notions of fighting the fascists, only to find himself witnessing the internal purges conducted by the Stalinist elements and eventually was himself the target of the NKVD operating in the country, and escapes to write Animal Farm and 1984 to warn against what he's seen. Unlike many communists/socialists of the era, he was ahead of the curve in recognizing what was brewing in the USSR, quite a few of them rationalized away the show trials of the 30s and the Great Terror, or the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, till well past the end of the 2nd world war.


Still doesn't negate the fact Orwell was a socialist, though.


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30 Oct 2021, 7:01 pm

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Still doesn't negate the fact Orwell was a socialist, though.


I never claimed he wasn't...


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30 Oct 2021, 7:29 pm

How to avoid getting caned while visiting Singapore.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 12-2%3famp


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30 Oct 2021, 8:12 pm

Dox47 wrote:
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You're aware Orwell was a socialist criticizing a certain school of thought within socialism, and not someone condemning socialism as a whole, right? :scratch:

"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism as I understand it"- George Orwell


I've always found that to be an interesting story, how Orwell went off to the Spanish civil war filled with romantic notions of fighting the fascists, only to find himself witnessing the internal purges conducted by the Stalinist elements and eventually was himself the target of the NKVD operating in the country, and escapes to write Animal Farm and 1984 to warn against what he's seen. Unlike many communists/socialists of the era, he was ahead of the curve in recognizing what was brewing in the USSR, quite a few of them rationalized away the show trials of the 30s and the Great Terror, or the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, till well past the end of the 2nd world war.


Definitely, he was one of the first to really make the case that Soviet style socialism was bound to be terrible and dehumanizing. Emma Goldman is another one who warned about how that sorta socialism was bound to unfold, she even lived there for awhile.


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30 Oct 2021, 8:22 pm

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How to avoid getting caned while visiting Singapore.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 12-2%3famp


Only real issue I have with these laws is the technical illegality of homosexuality, but lots of places are like that including some US states.



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30 Oct 2021, 8:58 pm

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Physical punishments might be the only thing capable of stopping this, but in the US that was abandoned long ago. What will not stop this is fines and jail.


It's almost like civilized societies decided physical abuse to force compliance was uncivilized or something.
Good on 'em.


In Saudi Arabia stealing that tip jar would cost you a hand. In Singapore dumping a bucket of filth in public would get you seven lashes with a cane wielded by a martial arts expert. As a result these sorts of crimes are non existent there.


And neither of those are places I'd hold up as examples of civilization.


Yes they are. It's not like either one is some malaria infested swamp in the Amazon where the people live in mud huts.


I wouldn't hold the nature of a society's basic housing or it's location against them but corporal punishment shows a distinct lack of civilized thought.


Ok then how do you think tribes of traditional people handle criminals?


Shoot to kill.



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02 Nov 2021, 12:33 am

Misslizard wrote:
How to avoid getting caned while visiting Singapore.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 12-2%3famp

basically you have to be a perfect human to pass muster there.



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02 Nov 2021, 8:04 am

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How to avoid getting caned while visiting Singapore.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 12-2%3famp

basically you have to be a perfect human to pass muster there.


Chewing gum is illegal there because it was once used to paralyze their train system by people using it to cover up sensors. I wonder why anyone would do this.



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02 Nov 2021, 8:10 am

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Ok then how do you think tribes of traditional people handle criminals?


Shoot to kill.


Actually, restorative justice/peacemaking is the preferred approach favoured by First Nations people. :wink:


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