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12 Apr 2022, 10:53 pm

a. Including contradictions.

b Changes the truth value of With God, All things are Possible = True to With God, All things are Possible = False.



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12 Apr 2022, 10:57 pm

I cannot figure out sentence B.

Care to rephrase it please?



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12 Apr 2022, 11:05 pm

Four references:

https://defendinginerrancy.com/bible-so ... _19.26.php

and

https://www.gotquestions.org/all-things ... sible.html

and

https://www.afrankvoice.com/blog/bible- ... ons-part-1

and

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-rock-heavy-lift.html


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12 Apr 2022, 11:58 pm

So basically the OP is asking "if god is omnipotent ( ie can do anything), can he make a boulder so heavy that even HE cant lift it?"?

The statement that "with god all things are possible" is not even the same kind of statement as saying "god is omnipotent". So it cant be addressed the same way - does not lend itself to an equation, or a syllogism. Peaches to pears.

Its more of an inspirational slogan like Norman Vincent Peale's "you can if you think that you can", or the current vogue expression "what doesnt kill you makes you stronger" (to take two secular examples).

Its saying that you do stuff in life if you have faith in God, or have God on your side, or ...like that.



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13 Apr 2022, 12:11 am

naturalplastic wrote:
So basically the OP is asking "if god is omnipotent ( ie can do anything), can he make a boulder so heavy that even HE cant lift it?"?


Yep, the age-old question of "If God is all powerful and can do anything, then God has the power to violate his own holy nature and character and be unholy, right? And God can do what is illogical or irrational like making you give birth to yourself, right?"


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13 Apr 2022, 12:53 am

naturalplastic wrote:
I cannot figure out sentence B.

Care to rephrase it please?


Strange NP! For a second I didn't see this post here but a second later I all of a sudden saw it. I guess I'm just really exhausted. It's been an exhausting 2 weeks.

I think Kites explained it.



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13 Apr 2022, 1:05 am

naturalplastic wrote:
So basically the OP is asking "if god is omnipotent ( ie can do anything), can he make a boulder so heavy that even HE cant lift it?"?

The statement that "with god all things are possible" is not even the same kind of statement as saying "god is omnipotent". So it cant be addressed the same way - does not lend itself to an equation, or a syllogism. Peaches to pears.

Its more of an inspirational slogan like Norman Vincent Peale's "you can if you think that you can", or the current vogue expression "what doesnt kill you makes you stronger" (to take two secular examples).

Its saying that you do stuff in life if you have faith in God, or have God on your side, or ...like that.



NP, a good chunk of us who are here on WP is autistic and have autistic traits. So, part of that is having problems with the pragmatics and semantics of language.

So, if all it is, is an inspirational quote I wasn't able to tell that because of my particular version of aspergers/autism.

So, if God is trying to communicate with all of us using metaphors and figurative language then I'm sorry but reading the Bible is extremely useless for me without God putting it into a format I can grasp.



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13 Apr 2022, 1:13 am

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These are I guess pretty good answers. I will say this. If it isn't God that is at issue then I will argue that man is at issue then including his follows and his followers are extremely poor at explaining and presenting God and his nature and character in a coherent manner.

Example: Many Christians will say "God in his infinite wisdom...." But, if God is perfection and perfect meaning he is complete then how is his wisdom infinite?

It's like saying I have the complete set of integers but the amount of integers is infinite. How is it possible for me to have a complete set of integers if the amount of integers is infinite? How can something that is infinite be complete?

[0,1,2,3,4, n, n+1...]

Or

does infinite in the Bible mean an infinite series or is the word infinite sort of like the word very or extremely?



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13 Apr 2022, 1:23 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
I guess I'm just really exhausted. It's been an exhausting 2 weeks.
I think Kites explained it.


Thanks!

As someone having ME/CFS and experiencing how that can make absorbing and understanding stuff simply not possible on occasion, I would recommend getting some rest before reading the 4 references I posted earlier.

At least one of them does address the situation you describe in what is quoted below,

cubedemon6073 wrote:
So, if God is trying to communicate with all of us using metaphors and figurative language then I'm sorry but reading the Bible is extremely useless for me without God putting it into a format I can grasp.


Some of it is indeed metaphorical and/or figurative.
A lot of it is not and is meant to be taken at face value, as-is, literal.
The text will generally give indication or say outright which is which though sometimes, yes, one does need to 'just understand' which is which.

With God's purpose being to establish relationship, it would be self-defeating to make his word impossible to understand.

As with so many things we fallen, imperfect, humans do, there is some good teaching on how to and some less good teaching on how to.


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13 Apr 2022, 1:32 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Example: Many Christians will say "God in his infinite wisdom...." But, if God is perfection and perfect meaning he is complete then how is his wisdom infinite?

Or does infinite in the Bible mean an infinite series or is the word infinite sort of like the word very or extremely?


Ah, we were writing at the same time. :D

That is one of those "either or" questions where the correct answer is "Yes."

The word can be used either way, or even both of those ways at the same time.

One way to say it is that, it is because God's wisdom is infinite that it is perfect and complete.

God himself as the source of that wisdom is perfect and complete because he himself is infinite.

There is nothing that he has ever not known.
There is no time that he has ever not been.
There is nothing that his infinite knowledge does not cover.
Because his wisdom and his knowledge are infinite they have no lack, no need.
Therefore, since they have no lack and no need, they are complete.


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13 Apr 2022, 5:46 am

The word "perfect" has various meanings.

The first meaning to me is "flawless". Not "complete".

If the teacher gives you a 100 percent on the quiz, she might write the word "Perfect!".

The next student who got 70 percent has the same amount of content on his exam as I do, but 30 percent of it is flawed. Its just as "complete" as mine, but its not "perfect".

Though "perfect" ( as in the grammatical term "past perfect") CAN also mean "complete".

So saying that God is perfect and also infinite would not be a contradiction. In theory he could be both infinite and be flawless.



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13 Apr 2022, 9:26 am



THE MIGHTY POWER OF BELIEVING ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD;

THE MIGHTY POWER OF BELIEVING ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH ALLAH;

THE MIGHTY POWER OF BELIEVING ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH JESUS;

THE MIGHTY POWER OF BELIEVING ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH the Sugar Pill, The Doctor Just Gave 'You' to Heal;

Yes By God, Allah, Jesus, the Sugar Pill Works; Through the Power of Suggestion That Science Assesses Now is

Most Definitely

Behind Both

The Placebo
And Nocebo

Effect That May Bring

Healing Up to Remission From
Terminal Disease; And Or An Early

Demise From Illness For Those Who Keep
A Negative Attitude in Life, Per the Real Emotions
That Feelings and Senses Make Up From Head to Toe in Synergy;

Yes, in All The Connections Associated With A Healthy Balance
of Neurochemicals And Neurohormones in Every Way Emotions

Drive MOST All of What We Do in Life Through Feelings and Senses
ThiS Way From Head to Toe,

Before, We Determine

The Reasons Next For
What We Do; And If We

Will Repeat What to Do Next;

For However We Move, Connect,
And Co-Create Our Realities, in the Future Now...

Fact Is, The Power of Suggestion; The Great Feeling Sensory
Emotions and Underlying Balance of Healthy Neurohormones
And Neurochemicals Vary According to Individual Make and Model

of Vehicle
And Vessel
of Being Human Now;

Sadly, Some Folks Who Are Very
Unemotional and Cold May Find Little
Healing When Administered A Sugar Pill,

Whether That Be An Actual Pill Or A Highly Charged
Feeling Emotional And Sensory Connection to A 'Meme'

That Is Just as Powerful as A Sugar Pill in Reality of Allah,

Or God, Or Jesus, or the Frigging 'Flying Spaghetti Monster,'

For Real if A Religion Was Designed Around That Meme That Folks

Place Great Emotional Feeling And Sensory Value Upon For Healing Suggestive Power....

And In General, A Glass OverFlowing Attitude As Opposed to Just Empty Within And Void Without

Finding Any Meaning
And Purpose in Life Ranging Up
to Anhedonia of Not Even BEING Able

NOW To Actually Feel Any Pleasure by
Consuming An Actual Teaspoon of Sugar;

Or Without Pro-Social Emotions or Practically
Any Emotions At All, Where Folks Will Cut Themselves
For the Adrenalin Reaction, if they Even Have That Left to Feel Anything At All In Life;

As This Applies to the Parable of the Rich Dude in the Bible, Who is So Attached to External
Stuff in His And Or Her Life, They Have no Ability to Generate Happiness Within, Such As With

An Autotelic Flow of Human Activity on Task in A Pleasurable Way of Life, Where We As Humans

Master this Kingdom

of Heaven For Real

Within, in Meditative
And Contemplative Ways in Flow

of Life As Practice Wiring Ourselves

Like a Real Christmas Tree of Unlimited

Nuances of Coloring Happiness From Head to toe
And So Much More, Inhaling Peace Exhaling LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT;
Giving, Sharing, Caring, Healing All ThiS Way With Least Harm Now...

Fortune Cookies With Positive Suggestions And Horoscopes With Positive
Suggestions About Life Work the Similar Way in Placebo Faith, Hope, And Loving

Ways of Life in More Positive Ways of Feeling, Sensing, And Acting in Life ALL in Balance

Continuing

to Color One's

Christmas Tree With

New Colors of Bliss Year
'Round As Taking the Tree Down

Only Puts off the Real Experience of Heaven Now;

Yet True Again, For the Person Who Relies Totally
on External Sources of Rewards in Life; It is Indeed Very

Difficult to Find this 'Camel' Passing Through This 'Needle'

of Greater Human Potentials; Yet Again, Those Sugar Pills of

God, Jesus, Allah; Or Just a Sugar Pill That Folks Put Such Great

Hope, Faith, And LoVE iNTo Actually Works Through the Power of Suggestion

And All the Feelings,

Senses, Emotions,
Neurohormones,
Neurochemicals;

All The Connections
Associated That Bring
Change In Moving, Connecting Co-Creating Ways,

REALLY DO WORK AS SCIENCE ASSESSES THIS PART OF
RELIGIONS TO BE TRUE TOO IN HOW THEY BOND AND BIND
FOLKS OVER A HIGHER MEANING/PURPOSE OF LIFE IN CARING AND HEALING

WAYS OF OPENING
UP WAYS TO NEW

HUMAN POTENTIALS,
NOT REALIZED BEFORE EITHER...

Yet Again, Not Everyone Wires And Colors
Their Christmas Trees this Way, Due to Both

Nature And Nurture Variables in Life; i Am Surely

Not Suggesting Life is Fair; Yet It's True, i Used to Be

Only A Withering

Weed, A Vine

With No Fruit;

Until i Started A
Practice of Keeping
Up my Christmas Tree
Year 'Round And Coloring All

Parts of Existence in Great Emotional,
Feeling And Sensory Value of Meaning And Purpose;

And What This Means is i May Value Myself as a Leaf
on A Tree Who Greens And Colors All of the Tree of me
And In Turn Fertilizes A Forest Whole Through Soils For New Green
Trees to Spring

Up Higher

As Souls

Year 'Round too;

Yet It's Also True As that
'Old Book' Describes; Sadly,

Not All Folks Have 'Eyes and Ears'
Beyond Just Physical Sensory Organs
Now to Understand These Metaphors;

And True, Life Just isn't Fair ThiS Way;

As It's True, Not Everyone Finds A Jesus,
God, Allah, Or Sugar Pill That Works For
This Real Power of Hope, Faith, And Love
or Whatever Metaphor one Wants to Use as

That Applies to the Power of Suggestion and
the Placebo Effect that Really Works; Other than

The Matthew Part of the Parable About the Rich
Dude Leaving His Riches Behind Finding the Kingdom
of Heaven Within And Actually Practicing This aS A Way Of Life;

And The Bleeding Seen As Unclean Woman, Outcast From Life Who
Believes if She touches A Part of the Dude Jesus's Garment She Will

Surely Be Healed
And Is in that
Story of Great
Hope, Faith, And Love too

That in this Case is Attributed
to the Sugar Pill of Jesus in that Story too...

i Can And Will Get The Similar Benefit From A Grain

of Sand on the Beach; Yet Just Imagine How Powerful

The Effect Will Be, if i Can And WiLL Gain the Benefit From All the Grains

of Sand On all the Beaches and the Rest of my Experience of Existence Now;

Yep, Bet i Could Heal myself of 19 Medical Disorders of Pain and Numb And i Did

And the Doctor's Taking Care of me Placed me in the Files of Unexplained Remission of Disease
With No Prognosis For Recovery; Yes, All it Took Was A Free Song of Free Poetry And Free Dance

To Stay Healed This Way for 8 Years, 8 Months And 25 Days Now; True, One Pays Attention More
As Attention to Heaven on Earth, Once one Experiences HeLL ON Earth, With the Worst Assessed
Pain and Numb Know to Humankind (Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia No Drug Would Touch) Wake

to Sleep for 66 Months; As Perspective in Life Counts too...

And Again, The Autotelic Flow of Writing In Just This

Style as i Have From The Beginning is What

Keeps me in Real Heaven Now;

Science Assesses This Flow

In Meditation Effective

For Healing Whether

It Comes in a Free Song

of Poetry This Way Ascending

And Transcending into Constant

Healing And Overflowing Hope, Faith,
And Loving Life With No Fear; Or Just a Free

Dance in Spiraling Flow of Public Dance for
16,453 Miles Now For Real too; As True

i Related This to A Dude in Walmart

Last Night Who Was on Oxygen

For A Heart Condition,

Who Wasn't Sure if Modern
Medicine Could Heal Him;

Even Though 'They' Assured Him They Could....

He Paid Attention to me for 30 Minutes, While i
Witnessed to Him my Real Life Story of Healing;

At the End my Real Life Story, This Gruff Looking 'Farm
Man Boy' Hugged me With Tears in His Eyes and Said Thanks Brother;

And Then i Said, Well, Considering i've Held You HeaR For 30 Minutes
With You On Oxygen, i Better Let you Go; And He Said if It's About 'Jesus'

i Ain't Going Nowhere;

And Indeed my Story

Might Help Him In His
Placebo Effect And Power
of Suggestion Associated

With The Meme and Super Hero
of His Story of Life He Values Most;

Yep, The Story Book Super Hero Jesus;

And If the Dude Was Muslim, Allah, Would Have Worked Just As Well;

And if the Dude Was Buddhist, Buddha Would Do Just Fine too; And if the

Dude Was Hindu, Krishna In His Back Pocket Would Have Served Him As A Sugar Pill
Super Hero Just fine too...

Or in China With
Lao Tzu And 'Tao' too

In Flow of 'Wu Wei' too;

Thing is, i Skip
All the Myths And

Go Directly to the
Real Essence of the

Power of Belief; It Works
As Science Shows; Yet it is
Rare One Will Find Someone

Who Goes Directly to the Source;

Without Some Ideology or Symbol

Associated; It Just Works Better for me;
Allowing me to Accomplish so Much More
in Life in Empirical Measurable Ways as it kinda

Blew Up the Dude's Head in Walmart When He Tried
to Guess i Wrote An EPiC Long Form Poem Almost
10.4 Million Words in 8 Years and 8 Months With The Dance, Come the
104th Anniversary Date of "SonG of mY SoUL" As Such on 4.18.2022; Yep,

He Also Insisted i Was in my 40's And Not About to Turn 62 on 6.6.2022;

Yes, my Driver's License Info, Proved me Correct As i've Had to Whip it out
Before Many Times to Prove the Same to Others; As It's Also True Science
Shows That Meditation, Whether Moving or Still, is A Real Fountain of Youth
That Actually Regenerates Grey Matter in the Brain And Shrinks Fear Centers too;

Yet i Told Him in His Religious Language; It's True if You Have Zero Fear And 100 Percent
Hope, Faith,

And Love

God Becomes

A Real Verb Within

One Can And Will Count on

in 100 Percent Ways of Getting

Stuff Done Now Always With Colors New...

There is No Perfection WHere i Live; Only Improving Even More;

Perfection is A Machine, i Want no Part of; Or A God Incapable of Change
Evolving Still Now True too...

There Are Many Venn
Diagrams That Comprise

Many Definitions of God and
Other Sugar Pills in Life; i Choose
Essence unlimited Even By Human

Abstract Constructs As Small as Infinity;

Yet It's True, i Can't Put All i Understand About
This Existence in Words; There Are Just Parts of
Existence For Real That Are Ineffable And Almost Impossible

To Put into Words; Yet 'They' Also Said There Was No Possible Prognosis
for my Recovery...

i BeLieVE iN
me That's All
i Really Need to
Know, Feel, Sense,
And Really Do; This

Force Within This Higher Power For REAL...

CaLL iT What Ever Ya Like; 'Flying Spaghetti Monster' or
CR8P, Holy And Sacred That Color Roses So Beautiful New;

IT'S TRUE, IT'S REAL AND IT LIVES AND BREATHES WiTHiNoW...

just me
and the
rest of
existence for real...

FoR Me at Least, This 100 Percent Force of Love...

Smiles, my FRiEnD, When one Communicates ThiS Way,

THere is No Pre-approved Way it Works; It Flows Like Waves
on Oceans Free Water Same Yet Forms Always Different in Deed...

Some Folks Are Able to Ride These Waves; Some Folks Are Not Able to As
Again, Make And Model And Vehicle And Vessel of Every Unique Human Being

Makes A Difference;

Your Path May Be totally

Different than Mine; Neither

Mine or Yours Negates the Reality of Another...

Nothing i Say Here may Be of Use to You; Yet Like
The Dude Last Night, His Hope, His Faith, His LoVE iN
A New Way of Believing In His Healing May Extend His Life

Another Day in Another

Day of His Life;

In that Case,
30 Minutes
of my Effort
Well Danced, Sung
And Actually Heard
And Understood by Another Human Being;
Yet He Had A Language of Hope, Faith, And Love
To Use in Terms of His Super Hero Meme Jesus; Not All

Folks Have A Gift Like Jesus, Allah, God, Buddha, Krishna,
Or Lao Tzu And His Tao And Wu Wei Associated Philosophies to Use...

And Some Folks Get No Benefit At All From Sugar Pills and the Power of Suggestion...

Never the Less,
AS EVEN SCIENCE
SHOWS, Some Folks

Actually Do AND
IN FACT, AS FAR AS
APHORISMS GO, THEIR LIVES BECOMES IMPROVED FOR REAL...

NOT IN ABSOLUTE TERMS; YET YES, IN VERY REAL HEALING TERMS

AND GETTING STUFF DONE IN EMPIRICAL MEASURE MORE AS WELL...

SO YES, FOR THOSE WHO BENEFIT, THEY BEST MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT
FOR A GREATER LIFE FOR REAL...

WHERE MORE

THINGS ARE

POSSIBLE IN LIFE FOR REAL NoW..:)



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13 Apr 2022, 9:43 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
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These are I guess pretty good answers. I will say this. If it isn't God that is at issue then I will argue that man is at issue then including his follows and his followers are extremely poor at explaining and presenting God and his nature and character in a coherent manner.

Example: Many Christians will say "God in his infinite wisdom...." But, if God is perfection and perfect meaning he is complete then how is his wisdom infinite?

It's like saying I have the complete set of integers but the amount of integers is infinite. How is it possible for me to have a complete set of integers if the amount of integers is infinite? How can something that is infinite be complete?

[0,1,2,3,4, n, n+1...]

Or

does infinite in the Bible mean an infinite series or is the word infinite sort of like the word very or extremely?



None of those answers address logical contradictions. That is, a thing being simultaneously true and false in the same sense. A logical contradiction would be something like:

'God, defined as x both exists and does not exist simultaneously'.

Contradictions in that sense are definitionally false. Therefore, more sophisticated theologians tend to argue that the god they believe in is 'maximally powerfully', that is, can do anything logically possible, rather than it can make contradictions true. That answers the 'rock so heavy that it can't be lifted' objection.



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13 Apr 2022, 5:10 pm

I think it has to be taken in its context:

Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”

But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”


First problem for me is that there's an obvious logical answer to the disciples' question - "People who aren't rich." So I don't see what they were so astonished about, or why Jesus didn't just give them that simple, obvious answer. And the answer he gave doesn't seem to me to have any bearing on the matter. But maybe I'm missing something, and maybe somebody here can explain the disciples' astonishment.

As for the veracity of the "with God all things are possible" claim, I've noticed before that Jesus' quotes are often anything but clear, nuanced and measured attempts at accuracy. He seems to have been something of a showman, and used a lot of colourful emotive language that I don't think was ever intended to be taken as literally and logically correct. It's like poetry, it doesn't try to speak to scientific, analytical minds. Logically, of course a being can't be "all-powerful" because as Fnord said, there's the problem about being able to create an object that's too heavy for you to lift. There's always something that a being can't do. So the claim that the Bible assigns to Jesus is factually incorrect, if you see it as a statement of material fact.



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13 Apr 2022, 6:38 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
I think it has to be taken in its context:

Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”

But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”


First problem for me is that there's an obvious logical answer to the disciples' question - "People who aren't rich."


I'm not sure that specific answer is as logical as it would have been if what Jesus had said had been that rich people can't be saved.

He said it is hard for them to enter the kingdom of heaven, not that they can not enter.
Several times there is commentary on people who relied on their riches for their security in life, and for other things too; and that their attitude of self sufficiency was a mistake, and what they should ultimately depend on for their ultimate security is God.

I expect the disciples got a mental image of their efforts to thread needles when mending clothes, making tents, and such, and had thoughts along the lines of, "I have enough trouble getting thread through a needle's eye, there ain't no way anyone will ever shove a camel through that little bitty hole, so how is there any way anyone can ever be saved!?"

Jesus' answer could be paraphrased as something along the lines of, "Bingo! Just like no human will never ever poke a camel that's taller than a human is through a tentmaking needle, humans will also never be able to save themselves from the consequences of sin.
People saving themselves is impossible, never gonna happen, but God can save, and he can save those who are considered the least possible to be save-able such as prostitutes and tax collectors and Romans."


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13 Apr 2022, 6:55 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
I think it has to be taken in its context:


Speaking of context, note what precedes that eye of a needle exchange between Jesus and the disciples,
https://biblehub.com/lsv/luke/18.htm

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9And He also spoke to some who have been trusting in themselves that they were righteous, and have been despising the rest, this allegory: 10“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee, and the other a tax collector; 11the Pharisee having stood by himself, thus prayed: God, I thank You that I am not as the rest of men, rapacious, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector; 12I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all things—as many as I possess. 13And the tax collector, having stood far off, would not even lift up the eyes to the sky, but was striking on his breast, saying, God be propitious to me—the sinner! 14I say to you, this one went down declared righteous, to his house, rather than that one: for everyone who is exalting himself will be humbled, and he who is humbling himself will be exalted.”

15And they were also bringing the babies near, that He may touch them, and the disciples having seen, rebuked them, 16and Jesus having called them near, said, “Permit the little children to come to Me, and do not forbid them, for of such is the Kingdom of God; 17truly I say to you, whoever may not receive the Kingdom of God as a little child, may not enter into it.”

18And a certain ruler questioned Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what having done—will I inherit continuous life?”

19And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one [is] good, except one—God; 20you have known the commands: You may not commit adultery, You may not murder, You may not steal, You may not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother.”

21And he said, “All these I kept from my youth”;

22and having heard these things, Jesus said to him, “Yet one thing to you is lacking: all things—as many as you have—sell, and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in Heaven, and come, follow Me”;

23and he, having heard these things, became very sorrowful, for he was exceedingly rich.

24And Jesus having seen him become very sorrowful, said, “How hardly will those having riches enter into the Kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.”

26And those who heard, said, “And who is able to be saved?”

27And He said, “The things impossible with men are possible with God.”
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:arrow: That bit about "9And He also spoke to some who have been trusting in themselves that they were righteous,"
Is part of what is referenced in “The things impossible with men are possible with God.”
It is impossible for men, humans, to make themselves, ourselves, righteous enough to inherit eternal life.
It is, however, possible for God to make men, humans, righteous enough to inherit eternal life.


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"There are a thousand things that can happen when you go light a rocket engine, and only one of them is good."
Tom Mueller of SpaceX, in Air and Space, Jan. 2011