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24 May 2022, 4:25 am

Why don't they let you buy more than one packet of pain-killers or antihistamines or any other over-the-counter medicines (because they think you're going to commit suicide with them) but there's no rule against buying several packs of cans of alcohol even though alcohol often causes domestic abuse and can damage your health?

Why doesn't society understand that sugar is the only (unhealthy) substance that only affects the person consuming it and not the people around them, unlike cigarettes and alcohol? Most smokers are selfish and will smoke near non-smokers or even in their homes, and a lot of people who consume a lot of alcohol get unpleasant to be around and is the top cause of domestic abuse. Sugar does none of that.


Tell me, please.


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24 May 2022, 4:39 am

Sugar does affect other people.

If a person overconsumes they will get obesity, diabetes and all kinds of other health problems. In the first instance that will affect close family members greatly. And secondly it will be a drain on the already stretched health services.

It’s bad all round.


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24 May 2022, 4:43 am

I've used alcohol when severly depressed and it gave me some relief, also it helps me in certain formal situations to loosen up. If someone limited my purchases it wouldnt affect me cos I dont buy much at a time.

It would be difficult and expensive for the government to enforce that.
Any politician suggesting it would get laughed out of parliament because the disadvantages outweighing the positives. Limiting alcohol is a good idea all around though.



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24 May 2022, 9:15 am

Sugar is literally addictive and can lead to diabetes.



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24 May 2022, 9:18 am

But yeah cigarettes and alcohol are basically just poison. But the ones profiting from it are making so much money.



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24 May 2022, 9:29 am

Google:

Sales: Sales of medicines for pain relief should be restricted to a maximum of two packs in any one transaction. Explanation: This limit is a reasonable balance between meeting a customer's immediate need for pain relief while helping to minimise stockpiling and accidental or impulsive overdose.


Basically to stop people suing them, it's always about money they couldn't actually give a s**t about people.


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24 May 2022, 9:34 am

Joe90 wrote:
Why don't they let you buy more than one packet of pain-killers or antihistamines or any other over-the-counter medicines (because they think you're going to commit suicide with them) but there's no rule against buying several packs of cans of alcohol even though alcohol often causes domestic abuse and can damage your health?

Why doesn't society understand that sugar is the only (unhealthy) substance that only affects the person consuming it and not the people around them, unlike cigarettes and alcohol? Most smokers are selfish and will smoke near non-smokers or even in their homes, and a lot of people who consume a lot of alcohol get unpleasant to be around and is the top cause of domestic abuse. Sugar does none of that.


Tell me, please.

In UK they dont even sell antibiotics, and some pills mom had to take with her from Romania because they were lacking.

If you eat enough sugar your life expectancy will halven and your kids and spouse will smack you, one at a time, 3 times a day. I think that's a pretty horrifying side-effect.



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24 May 2022, 9:38 am

Ive never heard of that here in the US. Except for the antihistamine Sudafed. And thats because Sudafed is the main ingredient in making chrystal meth.



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24 May 2022, 10:16 am

You can't get any antibiotics without a prescription.



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24 May 2022, 10:17 am

Worse still are artificial sweetners. Sugars are a mild health concern to the dangers of taking artificial sweetners. Saccarine (Aspartamine.. Also has other names) is an out and out poision and one cqn kill oneself if one has too much, yet these days it has all gone quiet. The max recommended dose was six saccarine tablets a day and they said to be safe do not take more than three.
Artificial sweetners in the sugarized form are even more deadly as one is not able to judge what a single dose actually is.

They claim that other types of artificial sweetners are "Healthy", but my body gets issues when I have any foods or drinks containing them and these other types cause me the same issues which are really concerning because it involves a trip to the A&E (What is A&E hospital called in USA?)

Yet these are in so many foods and drinks now that it is hard for me to avoid them. It is almost like the governments are trying to kill people these days!

Sugar is nothing compared to the dangers of artificial sweetners so be very careful that one is not overloading ones body with them.

Another serious health concern is chewing gum and bubble gum. In the town nearest to where I am living a 12 year old girld died through aving an overdose of chewing gum. She had become addicted to it, and it is not what you may think that killed her. It was an ingredient they use to make the gums work that bubble gums and chewing gums have that killed her which is a poision in larger doses. They say the safe dose is to spread a pack of chewing gum through out the week and never use the whole pack in a day. This girl was having two or three packs a day! She got weaker ad weaker. The hospital staff dis not realize the cause and it was only on the autopsy that the cause was found. Her Mum launched a campaign to try to raise awareness and had written to most of the major newspapers and the TV press but only the local newspaper would cover it due to the strong links between the press and the big companies. (The press todaynis owned by the same people that own the big companies which is why they did not want to get involved).

We see soo many false claims in the "Health" industry these days. I was brought up on a smallholding where we were taught the old ways of what was organic and what was not. Proper organic foods are not classed as being organic anymore and yet foods that are claimed to be "Organic" are not as they have twisted what the term "Organic" means. It is really surprizing if one does ones research what one can find out. But basically the safest way to know if the food item is organic these days is if one finds a slug or a few insect holes in the item (E.g. green leaf vegetables) it will be 100% organic. If there is no sign of any damage or any slugs or insects in any of the items offered for sale then look further, and if not one insect hole exists walk away! It is not what it says! As if insects do not go for it, then either it has been grown in conditions so sterile that there is no real goodness to the plant (Plants getbtheir goodness out of the soil microbes etc) and without any goodness it is just not going to do your body any good when you eat it. One may as wrll eat a wafer biscuit! (This is how a lot of todays false "Organic" foods are grown these days. Root veg are usually safe. Itnis the leafy veg one has to be concerned with. Traditional non organic which is foods sprayed with pesticides are actually better for you as at least you are getting the goodness in the soil even if you are taking in some pesticides! The food industry today for some leafy veg that carries the "Organic" label is fascinating how it is done, but it lacks the goodness in nutrient value that one needs).

But anyway. So many "Official" oppinions designed to make people buy their products! The best way is to eat what you want to eat and bless your food before you eat. The health industry makes a fortune on the backs of the common folk and the medical industry claims they know best when a lot of diabetis issues is due to the lack of proper organic veg that gives ones body the neutrients it needs to feed ones organs and make them work. Excess of sugar is not ideal, but an excess of sweetner is a death sentence!



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24 May 2022, 10:18 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
You can't get any antibiotics without a prescription.


No one can as far as I know? Only doctors and dentists and medical professionals are allowed to prescribe antibiotics due to the dangers of having too much where ones body is unable to fight off further illness if it has lost the ability due to too many antibiotics.



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24 May 2022, 10:22 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
You can't get any antibiotics without a prescription.


No one can as far as I know? Only doctors and dentists and medical professionals are allowed to prescribe antibiotics due to the dangers of having too much where ones body is unable to fight off further illness if it has lost the ability due to too many antibiotics.


No you can, it depends what though - if you sign up with these online pharmacies you can get certain stuff, I normally order rosacea antibiotics online all the time to stop blemishes cause I can't be arsed to go to the doctors.

Apparently a lot of people do this for STI's as well because they find it embarassing to go to the docs in person lol


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24 May 2022, 10:30 am

So sugar is more toxic that tobacco and alcohol? Diabetes is more deadly than COPD or liver disease? Diabetes caused by obesity can be controlled. And really the only people who are at the most danger of heart attacks from sugar are the morbidly obese who don't get out and walk and are extremely fat.

It's the smokers and the drinkers that are actually the ones overloading the health care system. Every weekend there are ambulances in the town treating those who have had way too much alcohol and are either ill or physically abusing other people. And there are many more smoking-related diseases and smoking can actually cause diabetes too in some cases, as well as COPD, heart disease, heart attacks, many different cancers, stroke, lung diseases, emphysema and chronic bronchitis. Smoking also increases risk for tuberculosis, certain eye diseases, and problems of the immune system, including rheumatoid arthritis.

Although I'm a sugar addict, I'm still glad I don't smoke or drink, and I can do exercise.


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24 May 2022, 10:52 am

Humans are not particularly logical when it comes to death. Different modes of death provoke different reactions. Drinking oneself to death is more acceptable than deliberately consuming an overdose of painkillers. A few innocent people killed by capital punishment is awful for most to contemplate, while tens of thousands of innocents - many children - dying on the roads each year is fine, because we like cars.

I always thought the restriction on painkillers was a bit odd. If someone is really determined they can always go to different shops.


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24 May 2022, 11:15 am

Lunella wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
You can't get any antibiotics without a prescription.


No one can as far as I know? Only doctors and dentists and medical professionals are allowed to prescribe antibiotics due to the dangers of having too much where ones body is unable to fight off further illness if it has lost the ability due to too many antibiotics.


No you can, it depends what though - if you sign up with these online pharmacies you can get certain stuff, I normally order rosacea antibiotics online all the time to stop blemishes cause I can't be arsed to go to the doctors.

Apparently a lot of people do this for STI's as well because they find it embarassing to go to the docs in person lol


STI's? Bicycle gear levers? They stand for "Shimano Total Intergration". I remember when they first came out. The early ones were not great but later ones are brilliant except they are prone to lack of maintenence issues where after a certain length of time the grease goes hard and their internal pawls cease and many inexperienced bicycle mechanics will claim they are broken, when the experienced ones will know how to fix them to save the customers a big bill.
Prior to this was what was known as SIS which is standard on most bicycles today even with other makes. It stands for "Shimano Idexed System". It basically means the gears click into position where the position is no longer "Felt" by ear like the old friction systems were in the past (What I call "Proper" cycling!) but each click movement corresponds to a shift from one cog to the next on the deraileur system.
The only real downside to SIS and the later indexed systems were that they needed correct adjustment where in the past, other that the end stop screws (Which were not even built into very early deraileur systems!) need to be set right and that indexed systems also suffer from needing a rear mech that had very little play (Play came as the mech started to wear) and the old friction system would carry on working regardless of wear until it finally broke so would last at least double the length of time an indexed rear mech was and the only real difference between the two was that the index mech had a little cable adjuster. Some friction gear mechs may have had slightly different leverage but this actually did not matter too much unless one tried to cram the rear with more than a six or seven speed freewheel or cassette (Though the early six speed cassettes freewheels were found to not be that reliable and even later cassettes freewheeling mechanisms are generally never going to match the reliability of a good quality freewheel (Later built freewhels have a downgraded quality compared to the past designs), and this lack of casette freewheel mechanism reliability (If one takes the length of time they last) is mainly due to two things. The first is that one has a much smaller diameter area for the pawlsto work with in a casette, and the other is that with freewheels, when the teeth wear out the freewheeling mechanism is part of it so is changed at the same time so not only do they have to cope with less internal issues having a larger diameter pawl area, but they are renewed more often so less chance of them giving up and one becoming stranded).
But what do gear systems have to do with antibiotics? Not sure...
Or does STI have another meaning?



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24 May 2022, 12:42 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
Lunella wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
You can't get any antibiotics without a prescription.


No one can as far as I know? Only doctors and dentists and medical professionals are allowed to prescribe antibiotics due to the dangers of having too much where ones body is unable to fight off further illness if it has lost the ability due to too many antibiotics.


No you can, it depends what though - if you sign up with these online pharmacies you can get certain stuff, I normally order rosacea antibiotics online all the time to stop blemishes cause I can't be arsed to go to the doctors.

Apparently a lot of people do this for STI's as well because they find it embarassing to go to the docs in person lol


STI's? Bicycle gear levers? They stand for "Shimano Total Intergration". I remember when they first came out. The early ones were not great but later ones are brilliant except they are prone to lack of maintenence issues where after a certain length of time the grease goes hard and their internal pawls cease and many inexperienced bicycle mechanics will claim they are broken, when the experienced ones will know how to fix them to save the customers a big bill.
Prior to this was what was known as SIS which is standard on most bicycles today even with other makes. It stands for "Shimano Idexed System". It basically means the gears click into position where the position is no longer "Felt" by ear like the old friction systems were in the past (What I call "Proper" cycling!) but each click movement corresponds to a shift from one cog to the next on the deraileur system.
The only real downside to SIS and the later indexed systems were that they needed correct adjustment where in the past, other that the end stop screws (Which were not even built into very early deraileur systems!) need to be set right and that indexed systems also suffer from needing a rear mech that had very little play (Play came as the mech started to wear) and the old friction system would carry on working regardless of wear until it finally broke so would last at least double the length of time an indexed rear mech was and the only real difference between the two was that the index mech had a little cable adjuster. Some friction gear mechs may have had slightly different leverage but this actually did not matter too much unless one tried to cram the rear with more than a six or seven speed freewheel or cassette (Though the early six speed cassettes freewheels were found to not be that reliable and even later cassettes freewheeling mechanisms are generally never going to match the reliability of a good quality freewheel (Later built freewhels have a downgraded quality compared to the past designs), and this lack of casette freewheel mechanism reliability (If one takes the length of time they last) is mainly due to two things. The first is that one has a much smaller diameter area for the pawlsto work with in a casette, and the other is that with freewheels, when the teeth wear out the freewheeling mechanism is part of it so is changed at the same time so not only do they have to cope with less internal issues having a larger diameter pawl area, but they are renewed more often so less chance of them giving up and one becoming stranded).
But what do gear systems have to do with antibiotics? Not sure...
Or does STI have another meaning?

In this case I believe it stands for Sexually Transmitted Infection :oops: