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02 Jun 2022, 9:43 am

Should jails and prisons be called forensic facilities? Being a criminal is a forensic issue, and disruptive, impulse-control, and conduct disorders and specific paraphilic, command hallucinations and delusions are mental disorders.



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02 Jun 2022, 9:56 am

I don't see how a name change changes the principal of prisons.



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02 Jun 2022, 10:04 am

Should the Titanic be renamed that Happy Fun-Time Love Boat?

:roll: That is a rhetorical question, by the way.

Renaming the prisons will not change the fact that they are warehouses for the storage of the worst forms of humanity.



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02 Jun 2022, 10:06 am

FranzOren wrote:
Should jails and prisons be called forensic facilities? Being a criminal is a forensic issue, and disruptive, impulse-control, and conduct disorders and specific paraphilic, command hallucinations and delusions are mental disorders.


They are already called "correctional facilities". Some are also called "penitentiaries" ( a place where you do penitence). Forensics has to do with "crime detection". Not with other aspects of crime. Not with either punishment, nor with rehabiitation. So your term would be an incorrect usage of the word "forensic". The only advantage to the word is alliteration. The double F sound.

So no. Totally inane suggestion.



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02 Jun 2022, 10:12 am

Besides, the term "Forensic" as it is defined would be mis-applied to prisons.

The word "forensic" is an adjective (adj) that implies:
1. belonging to, used in, or suitable to courts of judicature or to public discussion and debate; a lawyer's forensic skills.
2. relating to or dealing with the application of scientific knowledge to legal problems.

Prison is where people are sent after they have been through the judicial process.  Courts and crime labs are where forensic science is carried out and explained.



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02 Jun 2022, 10:31 am

That makes sense. I am sorry that I made an inane suggestion, it was not my intention to be insane.

I am sorry!



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02 Jun 2022, 10:34 am

FranzOren wrote:
That makes sense. I am sorry that I made an insane suggestion, it was not my intention to be insane.

I am sorry!


If youre referring to my post:

I said "inane". Not "insane". Lol!

"Inane" just means "to no purpose".

Not "mentally ill". :)



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02 Jun 2022, 10:44 am

FranzOren wrote:
That makes sense. I am sorry that I made an insane suggestion, it was not my intention to be insane.

I am sorry!


You have your moments but there is nothing to be sorry about.

Rewording and "rebranding" to appeal to modern cultural norms is common anyway. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.



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02 Jun 2022, 11:22 am

That makes sense.



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02 Jun 2022, 11:38 am

naturalplastic wrote:
FranzOren wrote:
That makes sense. I am sorry that I made an insane suggestion, it was not my intention to be insane.

I am sorry!


If youre referring to my post:

I said "inane". Not "insane". Lol!

"Inane" just means "to no purpose".

Not "mentally ill". :)


I am sorry, I had a severe hallucination that you said that. My bad!

I don't sleep that well and start to have hallucinations when I am very tired, it feels annoying.



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02 Jun 2022, 2:16 pm

Rebranding is a "thing" they do.

Some years ago I heard a news story on NPR about prisons. It mentioned how inmates are now called "clients".

"Clients" of the prison. As if the prison were a cruise ship, and the convicts were tourists who paid to stay there.

A lady spokesman described how "we train guards how to handle the client, and when to and when not to use force on the client". It came off sounding ludicrous and laughable.



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02 Jun 2022, 3:58 pm

That makes sense.