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21 Jul 2022, 9:12 am

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Ukrainian Communist youth leaders arrested by government, reportedly targeted for death March 7, 2022

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Mikhail Kononovich, leader of the youth wing of the outlawed Communist Party of Ukraine (CPU), and his brother, Aleksander Kononovich, were arrested by Ukrainian authorities in Kiev and could reportedly be facing execution.

The press office of the Security Service of Ukraine charged the two with being “propagandists” aiming to “destabilize” the internal situation in Ukraine. Essentially, the state accused them of acting as agents for Russia and Belarus, according to information received from the World Federation of Democratic Youth (WFDY), a global organization of progressive youth groups.
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The government that took power in Ukraine in the wake of the U.S.-backed “Euro-Maidan” coup of 2014 outlawed the Communist Party and banned it from running candidates in elections. The party’s youth group was also made illegal and its members subjected to political persecution by the police and in the courts.

Across the country, the government enforced a so-called “de-communization” law that not only outlawed the CPU, but also forbid the use of any Communist names or symbols in public, mandated the destruction of Soviet war memorials, and prevented any teaching about the positive aspects of Soviet history in schools.
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In an interview featured in People’s World in November 2019, Mikhail Kononovich—one of the two activists currently being held by the state—discussed Communist Youth Union mobilizations against the privatization of public farmlands by the government of President Volodymyr Zelensky.

After the Soviet Union fell apart in 1990-91, the Ukrainian government abandoned the collective farm system that had defined socialist agriculture in the USSR. The former collectively-owned land was distributed among the members of the farms, however, and bans on further sales were put in place to protect small farmers from being swallowed up by corporate industrial giants.

The Zelensky government reversed that longstanding policy in 2019, leading to fears that Ukrainian farmland—which takes up as much space as France and Germany combined—would be gobbled up by foreign agribusiness giants.

Ukraine is a top wheat producer; together with Russia it accounts for about 30% of the world’s traded wheat. The Russian invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing war have disrupted exports from both countries and sent global wheat prices soaring. International inflation of food prices, already on a steady rise before the war, will certainly be accelerated—leading to higher profits for producers outside the conflict zone.

Mikhail Kononovich situated the government’s persecution of Communists within the context of the neoliberal economic policies of marketization and privatization, such as the land sales, that have been pursued since the coup of 2014.

All through the 1990s and most of the 2000s, the CPU was the largest party in the Ukrainian parliament, and in the last election before it was banned, it received nearly three million votes. It often stood as a roadblock to multiple governments’ attempts to sell off more of the public property and resources inherited from Soviet socialism.

Kononovich said the outlawing of the CPU was intended “to clear the political field of left parties so they would not interfere with lowering social standards and selling land.” Comparing the fight to the resistance against Nazi invaders during World War II, Kononovich said, “The sale of [public] land is our Stalingrad—not one step back! No sale of land!”

The Kononovich family has been repeatedly targeted by both state authorities and fascist militia forces. According to a filing on record with the European Parliament, while leaving flowers in 2016 at a monument to Red Army soldiers who fought against Hitler, Mikhail Kononovich and other members of the Komsomol were victims of an assault by right-wing militants. Kononovich suffered serious blows to the head and another member nearly lost his sight.

Fascist gangs attempted to pressure hospital staff not to treat the injured Communists and also regularly intimidated Kononovich’s wife and daughter at their home afterward.

As of press time, the status of the two brothers, Mikhail and Aleksander Kononovich, and the conditions under which they are being held are not known.

Information from the CPU remains difficult to obtain due to the fighting in and around Kiev and because the party’s website and electronic communications channels have been blocked by the government since just after the war began.


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21 Jul 2022, 9:20 am

Ukrainian rightists burn alive 39 at Odessa union building May 5, 2014

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Some 1,000 Ukrainian rightists, led by the notorious Right Sector, surrounded, stormed, and burned the House of Trade Unions in Odessa last Friday, killing 39 pro-Russia demonstrators in the building.

On their way to attacking the union hall, which was occupied by anti-Kiev government demonstrators fearing for their lives, the rightists recruited members of a Ukrainian football club, the Chernomorets, according to numerous reports in the European press and on line.

Many of those who attacked and burned the building wore swastikas and other fascist insignias, according to observers. Eye witnesses said that the fascists were armed with bats, shields, and metal chains and that the people inside the union hall had run there for protection from them. After the attack by the rightists streets around the trade union headquarters were reportedly stained with the blood of those who had jumped from windows to escape the flames.

Women and children were reported to be among those burned alive after initial rounds of shots and Molotov cocktails were thrown into the building by the right wingers.

The right wingers who burned the union headquarters had already set another pro-Russian encampment in Odessa afire. That encampment consisted of rows of tents in Odessa’s Kulikova Field Square.

Police said that many of the victims at the House of Trade Unions had choked to death before burning up. The majority of the victims were found lying dead on the floors but some had jumped from windows, according to police.

As the union hall was engulfed in flames, photos posted on Twitter showed people hanging out of windows and sitting on windowsills where they appeared to be preparing to jump.

According to numerous reports those who jumped and survived were surrounded and beaten by right-wingers, including members of the football team.

The videos and photos showed Ukrainian riot police standing there doing nothing to stop or prevent the violence. The Ukrainian police said they could do nothing because they were “unarmed.”

Right Sector has bragged about its role in the killings on line and on YouTube:

“At first we broke through the side, and then we came through the main entrance,” said one pro-Kiev rightist who identified as a member of the group.

As the building burned some of the pro-Kiev activists said on Twitter that “Colorado beetles are being roasted up in Odessa,” using a derogatory term for the St. George’s ribbons worn by many of the anti-Kiev government demonstrators.

There were few official media outlets present, thus the heavy reliance on live streamed social media.

“The aim is to completely clear Odessa of pro-Russians,” said Dmitry Rogovsky, another Right Sector activist whose hand was injured during the fighting.

Increasing violence by the rightists is a growing embarrassment to the U.S. and the European Union, which have backed the right wing coup in Kiev and have tried to pin the blame for Ukraine’s troubles on Russia. Leading circles in those countries had hoped to use the coup government to force an IMF-designed austerity program on the Ukraine. If the right wingers continue to embarrass the West, however, U.S., EU and IMF plans for the Ukraine could go awry.


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21 Jul 2022, 9:28 am

Although Putin's Russia is tantamount to a dictatorship at this point, it's not a Communist one and the Soviet Union is no more. The attack on Ukraine is not justifiable by any means.

Ukraine's government, like so many governments, is very far from perfect. But Ukraine should have been able to resolve its own problems with right wingers, neo-Nazis and others working against democracy.


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21 Jul 2022, 9:30 am

envirozentinel wrote:
Although Putin's Russia is tantamount to a dictatorship at this point, it's not a Communist one and the Soviet Union is no more. The attack on Ukraine is not justifiable by any means.

Ukraine's government, like so many governments, is very far from perfect. But Ukraine should have been able to resolve its own problems with right wingers, neo-Nazis and others working against democracy.

I seriously disagree that Russia has anything to do with communism(not that you claim so, but some people do). Its capitalist government launched a war of aggression.
They also have their own recent record of persecution of Communists and greater Nazi activity.

I am on the left, not on Russia.


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21 Jul 2022, 9:42 am

Yes Putin accuses the Ukrainians of being "harbouring Nazis" but he is a right wing, self serving capitalist ruler only interested in his own glory and power.


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21 Jul 2022, 10:24 am

Not a popular time to be pro Russia , in Ukraine …… apparently , just like freedom of speech in the USA .
When poorly timed seem to result in death .


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21 Jul 2022, 7:11 pm

Jakki wrote:
Not a popular time to be pro Russia , in Ukraine …… apparently , just like freedom of speech in the USA .
When poorly timed seem to result in death .


Canada exists as an English speaking country because of how non-traitors were treated after the traitors (the ones who claimed to be patriots) won their revolt. United Empire Loyalists fled to Upper Canada, aka southern Ontario.

Similar to Ukraine and Russia we might share ethnic ties but Canada will never become American simply because of how those actions still impact our national identity, even if only on a subconscious level.


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22 Jul 2022, 1:47 pm

There is massive ignorance in the West and particularly in North America about Ukraine.

I blame the North American organised Ukrainian community for imposing the idea that what they think in the former Austrian Empire territories is what they think everywhere else in the borders of that former Soviet republic.

It also does not help that it is in those former Austrian territories that Ukrainian identity is strongest, thus they push their vision in the name of Ukrainian at the expense of the majority of people who actually live there with a far weaker Ukrainian identity, people who see themselves as partly Russian, even Soviet.

The CIA helped in establishing the power of these groups for Cold War purposes... "I'm a Ukrainian, not a Russian!"... that vision... And of course Nazi war criminals were leaders of that effort, there are SS monuments in Canada as a result.

Who would know that in 1999 a candidate who wanted to bring back the SOVIET UNION(! !!) won officially 37% of the vote in round two, and that it is widely believed that he was robbed by the oligarchs backing the incumbent Leonid Kuchma ( who back-stabbed his 1994
southern and eastern voters as has been a depressing pattern... amusingly, as an argument for the 2004 Orange Revolution, Oleksandr Moroz affirmed in fact that Petro Simonenko was robbed... leader of the Communist Party who wanted to bring back the Soviet Union...

Such things would be considered impossible to North American audiences brought up on the "Holodomor"... this alleged Russian plot to exterminate the Ukrainian nation by hunger, through the instrumentalisation of the 1932-33 famine. When the Orange Revolution events happened it HAD to be fraud that the so-called "pro-Russian" (though in reality multi-vectorist) Viktor Yanukovich won since that is like Jews voting for Hitler!

In reality, the south and east of Ukraine is rooting for Russia, they do NOT want to be colonised by the former Austrian territories around ethnically cleansed Lemberg nor do they want to be under US "external management", and the events on the ground support that. How many videos do we see of Kiev regime soldiers lamenting the fact that the locals in Severodonetsk and Kramatorsk are rooting for the Russians? How many videos do we see people celebrating the arrival of the Russians and DNR and LNR forces? Very many of them.



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22 Jul 2022, 1:57 pm

Usually, locking someone up for their political beliefs would not sit at all right with me.

In the very specific situation of an existential war, locking someone up if you have reasonable suspicion that their political beliefs might cause them to commit treason seems justified.

But killing them? No, outrageous. Whether it's judicial or extrajudicial, nobody should be killed for their beliefs. Of course, if they take up arms against the country then killing them in combat, or to directly protect someone else, is justified. But killing prisoners is never justified.



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22 Jul 2022, 3:13 pm

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I blame the North American organised Ukrainian community for imposing the idea that what they think in the former Austrian Empire territories is what they think everywhere else in the borders of that former Soviet republic.

Expatriate has a split of opinion among those in their homeland, while expatriate pushes a false narrative in the West?
What a familiar story.


According to my understanding of the Soviet style ethnic and ethnic autonomous region division system (this system has also been applied to China, and Yugoslavia seems to have a reference).
In order to maintain the stability of ethnic minority areas, some individuals who do not have strong identification with a certain identity are usually given the identity of a certain ethnic group in ethnic identity recognition - although this does not mean that they must belong to the main ethnic group.
On the other hand, they also tend to include the homes of some major ethnic groups into ethnic minority areas, so that the separatist tendency of this autonomous region can be balanced.

The results of this system may be difficult for residents of North America to understand. The North American style reserve is purely useless land that allows aborigines to be kept in captivity, so the entry of the main ethnic group is an infringement.
So that the existence of the main ethnic groups in the Soviet style ethnic autonomous region can be regarded as the criminal evidence of "genocide" and "internal colonization".

An example is Northern Kazakhstan, which is almost entirely Russian - if they had not left in large numbers because of the Kazakh nationalism of Kazakhstan.
This identity does not mean that Kazaks and Russians have a misunderstanding of national origin, but the result of the division of Soviet style ethnic autonomous regions. Ethnically speaking, Northern Kazakhstan belongs to the Russian people.
However, this is not a sufficient condition for Northern Kazakhstan should belong to the Russian Federation.

As far as I know, the eastern part of Ukraine is more likely to be described as Russian before the Soviet Union takes it as a stability tool, or a gift, to Ukraine, depending on your perspective.
But two things complicate this matter.
A. For some reasons, the famine in Ukraine led to the reduction of Ukrainians in the ethnic sense, so some Russians later migrated to this area.
The large-scale migration, may be forced, is a thing for the Soviet Union. So that Kazakhstan even has Koreans as one of the main ethnic groups. Thus the ethnic composition of the modern ex-Soviet states cannot be simply understood.
B. For some reason, Russia's territorial claims to Crimea, as well as the recent war for some reason, have led some individuals who do not fully recognize Ukrainian identity to establish Ukrainian identity.


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23 Jul 2022, 9:15 pm


Donbass - 2016. Documentary Anne-Laure Bonnel (subtitles EN FR SPA ITA)

If you need a brief introduction:

Poroshenko(Former president of Ukraine) publicly demanded the maltreatment of Ukrainians in the East.
The East Ukrainians described what was happening as a civil war.

The allegations against the authorities used confessions and did not interview the authorities of both sides of the conflict.
The charges include the use of mines by the Ukrainian army, discrimination, and lynching. The use of large-scale weapons to bomb civilian areas. Targeting Russian speakers.

Residents' point of view:
"Children are not terrorists. What kind of countries will kill their citizens? They think we are not human"
"he (I'm not sure about the specific person described) launched the war not against Ukraine, but against unjust people and those who came to kill us. Ukrainians and Russians are essentially Slavs. It is the biggest mistake to think that the Russian army is waging war here. If the Russian army goes to war here, we will get peace within a week."


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24 Jul 2022, 7:27 pm

https://asiatimes.com/2015/03/pepe-escobar-in-eastern-ukraine-howling-in-donetsk/
Howling in Donetsk MARCH 30, 2015

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Asia Times’ roving correspondent Pepe Escobar just returned from a reporting trip to the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), the pro-Russian enclave in the Donetsk Oblast province of eastern Ukraine. The area’s been the scene of heavy fighting between pro-Russian rebels and the Ukrainian military. Escobar traveled to Donetsk at the invitation of Europa Objektiv, a German-based non-governmental media project. He traveled at his own expense.

I’ve just been to the struggling Donetsk People’s Republic. Now I’m back in the splendid arrogance and insolence of NATOstan.

Quite a few people – in Donbass, in Moscow, and now in Europe – have asked me what struck me most about this visit.

I could start by paraphrasing Allen Ginsberg in Howl – “I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness.”

But these were the Cold War mid-1950s. Now we’re in early 21st century Cold War 2.0 .

Thus what I saw were the ghastly side effects of the worst minds of my – and a subsequent – generation corroded by (war) madness.

I saw refugees on the Russian side of the border, mostly your average middle-class European family whose kids, when they first came to the shelter, would duck under tables when they heard a plane in the sky.

I saw the Dylan of Donetsk holed up in his lonely room in a veterans’ home turned refugee shelter fighting the blues and the hopelessness by singing songs of love and heroism.

I saw whole families holed up in fully decorated Soviet-era bomb shelters too afraid to go out even by daylight, traumatized by the bombings orchestrated by Kiev’s “anti-terrorist operations”.

I saw a modern, hard-working industrial city at least half-empty and partially destroyed but not bent, able to survive by their guts and guile with a little help from Russian humanitarian convoys.

I saw beautiful girls hangin’ out by Lenin’s statue in a central square lamenting their only shot at fun was family parties in each other’s houses because nightlife was dead and “we’re at war”.

I saw virtually the whole neighborhood of Oktyabrski near the airport bombed out like Grozny and practically deserted except for a few lonely babushkas with nowhere to go and too proud to relinquish their family photos of World War II heroes.

I saw checkpoints like I was back in Baghdad during the Petraeus surge.

I saw the main trauma doctor at the key Donetsk hospital confirm there has been no Red Cross and no international humanitarian help to the people of Donetsk.

Oktyabrski neighborhood, bombed hospital

I saw Stanislava, one of DPR’s finest and an expert sniper, in charge of our security, cry when she laid a flower on the ground of a fierce battle in which her squad was under heavy fire, with twenty seriously wounded and one dead, and she was hit by shrapnel and survived.

I saw orthodox churches fully destroyed by Kiev’s bombing.

I saw the Russian flag still on top of the anti-Maidan building which is now the House of Government of the DPR.

I saw the gleaming Donbass arena, the home of Shaktar Donetsk and a UFO in a war-torn city, deserted and without a single soul in the fan area.

I saw Donetsk’s railway station bombed by Kiev’s goons.

I saw a homeless man screaming “Robert Plant!” and “Jimmy Page!” as I found out he was still in love with Led Zeppelin and kept his vinyl copies.

I saw a row of books which never surrendered behind the cracked windows of bombed out Oktyabrski.

I saw the fresh graves where the DPR buries their resistance heroes.

I saw the top of the hill at Saur-mogila which the DPR resistance lost and then reconquered, with a lone red-white-blue flag now waving in the wind.

Top of the hill at Saur-moglia

I saw the Superman rising from the destruction at Saur-mogila – the fallen statue in a monument to World War II heroes, which seventy years ago was fighting fascism and now has been hit, but not destroyed, by fascists.

I saw the Debaltsevo cauldron in the distance and then I could fully appreciate, geographically, how DPR tactics surrounded and squeezed the demoralized Kiev fighters.

I saw the DPR’s military practicing their drills by the roadside from Donetsk to Lugansk.

I saw the DPR’s Foreign Minister hopeful there would be a political solution instead of war while admitting personally he dreams of a DPR as an independent nation.

I saw two badass Cossack commanders tell me in a horse-breeding farm in holy Cossack land that the real war has not even started.

I did not see the totally destroyed Donetsk airport because the DPR’s military were too concerned about our safety and would not grant us a permit while the airport was being hit – in defiance of Minsk 2; but I saw the destruction and the pile of Ukrainian army bodies on the mobile phone of a Serbian DPR resistance fighter.

I did not see, as Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe international observers also didn’t, the rows and rows of Russian tanks and soldiers that the current Dr. Strangelove in charge of NATO, General Breedhate, sees everyday in his exalted dreams invading Ukraine over and over again.

And I did not see the arrogance, the ignorance, the shamelessness and the lies distorting those manicured faces in Kiev, Washington and Brussels while they insist, over and over again, that the entire population of Donbass, traumatized babushkas and children of all ages included, are nothing but “terra-rists”.

After all, they are Western “civilization”-enabled cowards who would never dare to show their manicured faces to the people of Donbass.

So this is my gift to them.

Just a howl of anger and unbounded contempt.

Somehow, I can't view the photos in the article.


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24 Jul 2022, 10:52 pm

I object to this witch-hunt for "collaborators" in Ukraine for the reason that the Kiev authorities already knew that Russia had a great deal of support... their whole regime set up by Victoria Nuland et cie was about punishing and abusing that population, about planning to destroy them in due course. Now the war they themselves provoked is used as an excuse to hasten the process. To hell with them!



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24 Jul 2022, 11:30 pm

I heard an unconfirmed statement.
Russia carried out compulsory conscription in the occupied pro-Russian areas.
These people are not Russian citizens, so they don't get guarantee like Russian soldiers.

But another statement is that they were sent to the newly occupied areas to exercise control. So this is an attractive job.


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26 Jul 2022, 11:52 pm

SkinnedWolf wrote:
I heard an unconfirmed statement.
Russia carried out compulsory conscription in the occupied pro-Russian areas.
These people are not Russian citizens, so they don't get guarantee like Russian soldiers.

But another statement is that they were sent to the newly occupied areas to exercise control. So this is an attractive job.


The political status of the territories taken over is not the same. There are two categories of territory. The first is territory that Russia recognises as being part of the Donetsk People's Republic or Lugansk People's Republic. The second is territory that is not so recognised. On the first territories, the governments of the Donetsk People's Republic and Lugansk People's Republic are mobilising the people on their territories and as they control more and more territory, they can mobilise more people.

As for the other territory not recognised in the People's Republics, notably part of Kharkov, part of Zaporizhia and most of Kherson, as far as I know, there is no mobilisation as there is no claimed authority of a local army that can do this.



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27 Jul 2022, 1:15 pm

Soldiers of the people's Republic Army of Donbas were found wearing Neo Nazi logos in the video of the medal ceremony


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