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03 Dec 2022, 10:43 am

Most of the problems of the world today are the result of our successes. Not our failures.

One example:

If a disease breaks out in some corner of the world it took months for it to spread to other continents. Today a person can get on a jet in Africa and land in Dallas and take viruses with them at will.

Not just technology, but political triumphs enabled this. In the depths of cold war fifties there was less trade and travel between the communist bloc and the rest of the world than there was between countries in the Dark Ages. Communism fell, and today the now fiercely capitalistic China manufactures half of the stuff in the world. Prosperty, ease of travel, the fall of political barriers, resulted in covid being able to repeatidly spread around the world - and to constantly mutate.



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03 Dec 2022, 10:48 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Most of the problems of the world today are the result of our successes. Not our failures.

One example:

If a disease breaks out in some corner of the world it took months for it to spread to other continents. Today a person can get on a jet in Africa and land in Dallas and take viruses with them at will.

Not just technology, but political triumphs enabled this. In the depths of cold war fifties there was less trade and travel between the communist bloc and the rest of the world than there was between countries in the Dark Ages. Communism fell, and today the now fiercely capitalistic China manufactures half of the stuff in the world. Prosperty, ease of travel, the fall of political barriers, resulted in covid being able to repeatidly spread around the world - and to constantly mutate.

Yeah it's called "unintended consequences".


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03 Dec 2022, 10:51 am

I guess with our species it's damn what we do and damn what we don't. Because there's always bad consequences based on everything we try to do even with our best intentions.



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03 Dec 2022, 10:59 am

I've shared this before on WP, I'm also pretty sure I've shared it with the OP before as well:

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/m ... on-moloch/


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03 Dec 2022, 11:32 am

MaxE wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Most of the problems of the world today are the result of our successes. Not our failures.

One example:

If a disease breaks out in some corner of the world it took months for it to spread to other continents. Today a person can get on a jet in Africa and land in Dallas and take viruses with them at will.

Not just technology, but political triumphs enabled this. In the depths of cold war fifties there was less trade and travel between the communist bloc and the rest of the world than there was between countries in the Dark Ages. Communism fell, and today the now fiercely capitalistic China manufactures half of the stuff in the world. Prosperty, ease of travel, the fall of political barriers, resulted in covid being able to repeatidly spread around the world - and to constantly mutate.

Yeah it's called "unintended consequences".


Its also called "life".

Every problem in life is caused by something that was solution to some other problem. :)



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03 Dec 2022, 3:42 pm



Oh Dear Lord, Etc., Have You Heard 'The News;' God Yes,

A Group of Mostly Hairless Apes Are MaKinG

Tools of Words Collecting Intelligence of Arts

And Sciences Across Generations in Symbols

Called Alphabets and Words For Paragraphs

And Pages Even More Than 255 Characters

In Pictographs Way Back When Before

Agriculture Then, They Only Usually

Lived Nearly Naked
Enough Whole Complete
in Play for the Forage of the Night And
Day Including Hunting and Gathering too

In Groups Rarely Larger Than 150, WHere
Most Everyone Worked to Raise A Child of
Empathy, Compassion, And Cooperation God Yes

As Every All Hands Count of Human Cooperation

Makes a Life or Death Reality Then of

Survival Now And Soon to Come Again

Then At Best In Balance With the Rest of Nature...

Subsistence Still Coming in Green And Colorfully New...

Oh Dear Lord, Fast Forward

12,000 Years or So in the

Age of AGRiCuLTuRE And

Hoarding Grains Selfishly

In Silos For the Have's Versus

the Have Not's Still to Come in Big Cities

And Countries Fighting Against Countries in World Wars

Tribally AS Such for Access to More Control of Subsistence And Reproduction and Such

And Now Here We aRe on the "Wrong Planet" Wearing Avatar Clothes of Words Somewhere

Beyond Distance Space And Time
AnD A Matter 'With Things;'

Yes, Avatars Traveling

At the Speed of What

Fiber Optic Cables Will

Bring of What is Humanly Left of

Us AS NOW WE BECOME LITERALLY THE TOOLS WE CREATE

As i May Dance Away From This Place Yet my Avatar Still Sings Free...

WeLL IT'S TRUE, HUMANS HAVE BEEN LIVING WAY OUT OF BALANCE

WITH THE REST OF NATURE, PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST 200 YEARS,

Extinguishing So Much

of Animal, Plant,
And Ocean Life

As We Displace

The Circle of Life
in Balance ThiS Way...

Hmm... Yet Wait! Now Newly In 'IT' Ways

We Are Increasingly Becoming Avatars online

Hmm... How Much Do We Actually Consume Online

of Nature Debating "Why IS The World So Screwed Up?"

Hmm... Maybe Nature is Still In Control And We aRe Willingly

Leaving the EartH to Only Participate in Around 7 Percent of Potential Humanity

in Warmth in Text... Hmm... What Could Possibly Happen Next... Hmm... Perhaps Like in

Japan one of the most So-Called Technologically Advanced CuLTuRES, Youth Will

Increasingly

(God, YeP it's
Happening Now)

Not Be Interested
in Doing the 'Wild Thing'

With Each Other And Populations

of Humans Will Decrease As We Continue

to Live as Avatars With Some of Us Hehe Downloading

Unlimited Pretty Birds As Fast As Possible As We Can and Will Obtain

Instant
Gratification
As Fast As Possible too

With No Living Offspring to Root...

True, Hehe it appears We Are Finding

Less Ways To 'Screw Around In This World'

At Least

For Two
In Flesh and
Blood Love Bug Connecting Ways...

Other than that There is This, Yes! Discovered Existence

STiLL Living on Earth Living to Be 100 MiLLioN Years Old

Beneath The Ocean And Ocean Floor Hmm... What's Better,

to Be An All Screwed Up Human Living Less Than 100 Years

or the Same
Old Same

Old Ground

Hog Day Being

A Frigging Microbe

Living in Balance With
Nature 100 MiLLioN Years

Under the Ocean And Sea Floor in Total Darkness There...

There Are As Many Multi-Uni-Verses of Existence As There

Are Views into Individual Ways of Being True i Could Literally

Be Dancing and Singing Free

(YeS, i ReAlly Do i Am THiS WaY)

In Walmart in God Yes Breath
TaKinG Bliss and Nirvana FOR REAL

iNHaLinG Peace ExhalinG LoVE iN
JoY OF LiGHT Giving Sharing
Caring Healing All With Most
Respect And Least Harm Yes iN

FloW oF Moving Meditation

And Someone my Same Age

May Be Shuffling by With

A Frown As Wide

aS Hell

is Deep

In Ocean

Whole Black Abyss Ways

Of Darkness Yet at Least

They Won't Live a Million Years That Way...

True, This Existence iS ALL A Matter of Perspective; Yes, Do

Look Above At All the Hot And Cold Rocks That Don't Hold Life...

Do Ya Really Wanna Live With Elon Musk on Mars Like Microbes Living

Under the
Ocean and

Ocean Floor That Way...

Well Then Let's All Hold

'Hands' online and Download

Unlimited Pretty Birds, Jesus F in

Christ Yawn, It's Probably Better than

Being a Million Year-Old Microbe at Least Hehe

Or A Human

Being With the
Worst Pain Known
to Humankind in a Kind

of Numb Where i Couldn't Remember
if i Ever Experienced the Feeling of A SMiLe Before

Yes Life is Way too Precious to Worry About What Might Be or Might Not Be...

It's True, Nature Will Take Care of the Rest, Whether We Continue to LiVE iN or Out of
Balance Now...

Meanwhile,

Newly, While i Have
the Opportunity Now,

i Ain't Doing Microbe

Under the Ocean Under

The Ocean Floor Where A Million

Years is A Second in A Place of Nothing at All Soul For (HeLL) REAL...

Matter of FACT, Empirically Measurable as So, iN Terms of 1520 Pounds
of Leg Lifting Strength And Over 2000 Pics in Ecstatic SMiLing Ways With

The Most Beautiful

Women in the Pensacola

Metro Area and Joining my

Soul With the Most Beautiful

Souls All Around the Globe

God Yes HeARTFullY Poetically

In Real Organic SPiRiT SPReaDinG

With What i See As the

Most Beautiful 52

Year Old Wife

At Least

in EYeS of mY
SoUL Living in A Modest

Home All Paid-off in a Real
Garden of Eden LITERALLY NAKED
ENOUGH WHOLE COMPLETE, as even

my 8-And-A-Half-Year-Old Bullet Proof
Honda

Civic

Coupe

Is Paid-Off too; Yep,

These Are The Best of Days

Now At Age 62 And 3 Days

Short of 6 Months on 12.6.2022

(Trivia Note: My X-Catholic Irish Priest
Grandfather's Birthday in 1895; If He Didn't

Break the Frigging CATHOLIC Rules, i wouldn't

Even Frigging Exist and Yes THere are

Like A 'Zillion' Other Examples For All

Of Us Through All of Existence

Relating to Our Gifts of Breath

NoW in This Real Miracle of Life)

As Long As i Don't Visit Certain

Channels of TV And Certain Places Online too With SMiLes

Yet Guess What, i Am A Seasoned SoUL, i Realize DarK Makes LiGHT

And Heaven

Makes Hell

i Know THeRE

WHeRE i Come

From NeW i Feel and

Sense Real Where i AM Now FOR REAL

Jesus F in Christ This is the Best

Now Ever Gonna Staycation As

Long As Now Lasts Forever THiS WaY New...

LeSSoN of Existence; Yes, Don't Do Microbe For

100 MiLLioN Years Unless You Really Have to, YUCK

And Just to Imagine Some Humans Wish Their Enemies

To Burn at the Hand of An All Loving Forgiving God Forever in Torture...

True, Somedays

The Human

Condition

Is Really F'ed

Up And Just
Not Grateful

Enough For Not
Being a 100 MiLLioN
Year-Old Microbe The Same Way...

Perhaps That is What 'Trumps' Will Do Next

If the Pimply Faced Kid in THeiR Parent's Basement

Way Up THere Decides Those Are the Rules of This
Big Video Game
Simulation Now...

Hey, Even

Famous

Atheist

Sam Harris

Doesn't Discount

The Real Possibility

of That in This Existence Newly Now;

True, Indeed Be Careful What We 'Fish' For For Real... Hmm...

Yep,

Make the
Best of Now

As None Of Us
Truly Will See

How Deep

Heaven

or Hell May Still Come to Be...

It's Like When i Am Just 21,

Traveling to College Then in
A Car With No Heat Commuting

Not Able to Afford Anything Yet
Peanut Butter Sandwiches With

No Hot Water Heater Working

Yet My Wife Didn't Have Water

Or Peanut Butter Sandwiches; Yep,

She Had to Climb 40 Foot Trees at 8 Years-Old Overlooking
The Roof's of the Have's Picking Moist Fruit off of Trees

As the Story of Real 'Wonder Woman' Continues too...

Hmm...

Just Hmm...

Life, Make it What is At Best...

And If You Are Really So Very Fortunate,

You Live Next to A Tree That Still Bears Fruit...



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