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07 Mar 2023, 9:09 am

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Actually there are plenty of horror stories about doctor's choosing for intersex children. Do labwork, have a basic outline based on that labwork for which hormones are predominant. Then, let the kid grow up and see how they lean. Don't whack something off when the child is still becoming 'upstairs' in their brains.


On this we agree.

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We've always been willing to do the hard work when it came to parenting, until now. We, as parents, helped our kids navigate the difficulties of adolescence and made decisions that we felt protected kids from themselves until they were old enough. We know now that 18 is not the age of brain maturity, it's simply the age they can join the army. Would you really get behind a lifetime sentence for a kid who committed an act of violence against another kid? Lock 'em up and throw away the key? Because like it or not, this is similar. Only it's self mutilation (violence directed at themselves)... And the consequences could be a lifetime, no going back.



Basically your argument boils down to we let them have all sorts of responsibility, they'll be charged as adults, they can go murder people for their government, they can vote, but this one responsibility is just too far for grown-ass adults to handle.

Your attempt to treat gender affirming surgery as violence doesn't make your argument more persuasive, it makes it more hyperbolic.

Colour me unconvinced.


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07 Mar 2023, 7:01 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Actually there are plenty of horror stories about doctor's choosing for intersex children. Do labwork, have a basic outline based on that labwork for which hormones are predominant. Then, let the kid grow up and see how they lean. Don't whack something off when the child is still becoming 'upstairs' in their brains.


On this we agree.

Persephone29 wrote:
We've always been willing to do the hard work when it came to parenting, until now. We, as parents, helped our kids navigate the difficulties of adolescence and made decisions that we felt protected kids from themselves until they were old enough. We know now that 18 is not the age of brain maturity, it's simply the age they can join the army. Would you really get behind a lifetime sentence for a kid who committed an act of violence against another kid? Lock 'em up and throw away the key? Because like it or not, this is similar. Only it's self mutilation (violence directed at themselves)... And the consequences could be a lifetime, no going back.



Basically your argument boils down to we let them have all sorts of responsibility, they'll be charged as adults, they can go murder people for their government, they can vote, but this one responsibility is just too far for grown-ass adults to handle.

Your attempt to treat gender affirming surgery as violence doesn't make your argument more persuasive, it makes it more hyperbolic.

Colour me unconvinced.



Like I said, do what you will. I will continue to speak out for maturity prior to irreversible surgery.


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07 Mar 2023, 9:01 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Actually there are plenty of horror stories about doctor's choosing for intersex children. Do labwork, have a basic outline based on that labwork for which hormones are predominant. Then, let the kid grow up and see how they lean. Don't whack something off when the child is still becoming 'upstairs' in their brains.


On this we agree.

Persephone29 wrote:
We've always been willing to do the hard work when it came to parenting, until now. We, as parents, helped our kids navigate the difficulties of adolescence and made decisions that we felt protected kids from themselves until they were old enough. We know now that 18 is not the age of brain maturity, it's simply the age they can join the army. Would you really get behind a lifetime sentence for a kid who committed an act of violence against another kid? Lock 'em up and throw away the key? Because like it or not, this is similar. Only it's self mutilation (violence directed at themselves)... And the consequences could be a lifetime, no going back.



Basically your argument boils down to we let them have all sorts of responsibility, they'll be charged as adults, they can go murder people for their government, they can vote, but this one responsibility is just too far for grown-ass adults to handle.

Your attempt to treat gender affirming surgery as violence doesn't make your argument more persuasive, it makes it more hyperbolic.

Colour me unconvinced.


Another example of how you misrepresent ppl.
Every time you do that, you lose more "Credibility Coinage".


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07 Mar 2023, 9:32 pm

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Actually there are plenty of horror stories about doctor's choosing for intersex children. Do labwork, have a basic outline based on that labwork for which hormones are predominant. Then, let the kid grow up and see how they lean. Don't whack something off when the child is still becoming 'upstairs' in their brains.


On this we agree.

Persephone29 wrote:
We've always been willing to do the hard work when it came to parenting, until now. We, as parents, helped our kids navigate the difficulties of adolescence and made decisions that we felt protected kids from themselves until they were old enough. We know now that 18 is not the age of brain maturity, it's simply the age they can join the army. Would you really get behind a lifetime sentence for a kid who committed an act of violence against another kid? Lock 'em up and throw away the key? Because like it or not, this is similar. Only it's self mutilation (violence directed at themselves)... And the consequences could be a lifetime, no going back.



Basically your argument boils down to we let them have all sorts of responsibility, they'll be charged as adults, they can go murder people for their government, they can vote, but this one responsibility is just too far for grown-ass adults to handle.

Your attempt to treat gender affirming surgery as violence doesn't make your argument more persuasive, it makes it more hyperbolic.

Colour me unconvinced.


Another example of how you misrepresent ppl.
Every time you do that, you lose more "Credibility Coinage".


Who am I misrepresenting, the military?

Besides Pepe, what do I care how much credibility I have in your eyes? It's not like you possess enough credibility to give your judgments any.

Stay salty my friend.


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07 Mar 2023, 9:44 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Actually there are plenty of horror stories about doctor's choosing for intersex children. Do labwork, have a basic outline based on that labwork for which hormones are predominant. Then, let the kid grow up and see how they lean. Don't whack something off when the child is still becoming 'upstairs' in their brains.


On this we agree.

Persephone29 wrote:
We've always been willing to do the hard work when it came to parenting, until now. We, as parents, helped our kids navigate the difficulties of adolescence and made decisions that we felt protected kids from themselves until they were old enough. We know now that 18 is not the age of brain maturity, it's simply the age they can join the army. Would you really get behind a lifetime sentence for a kid who committed an act of violence against another kid? Lock 'em up and throw away the key? Because like it or not, this is similar. Only it's self mutilation (violence directed at themselves)... And the consequences could be a lifetime, no going back.



Basically your argument boils down to we let them have all sorts of responsibility, they'll be charged as adults, they can go murder people for their government, they can vote, but this one responsibility is just too far for grown-ass adults to handle.

Your attempt to treat gender affirming surgery as violence doesn't make your argument more persuasive, it makes it more hyperbolic.

Colour me unconvinced.


Another example of how you misrepresent ppl.
Every time you do that, you lose more "Credibility Coinage".


Who am I misrepresenting, the military?


Persephone29 made no suggestion she believed 18 year soldiers went out to "murder" ppl.
How could you not understand where "you put words into her mouth"?

funeralxempire wrote:
Besides Pepe, what do I care how much credibility I have in your eyes? It's not like you possess enough credibility to give your judgments any.

Stay salty my friend.


Ppl with INTEGRITY do see I back up my arguments with reason, research, objectivity, and life experience.
Ppl with INTEGRITY do see my priority is on The Truth no matter where it may lie.
I am only interested in how ppl with INTEGRITY see me, hence my vigorous defence of my credibility.


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07 Mar 2023, 9:51 pm

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:

Who am I misrepresenting, the military?


Persephone29 made no suggestion she believed 18 year soldiers went out to "murder" ppl.
How could you not understand where "you put words into her mouth"?


I never said or implied that she said or believes that. I'm sorry that you struggle to read but that's not my problem. Your accusation is just an attempt at harassment so please spare me, you look like an idiot when you invent these sorts of complaints.

Infantile was a kind understatement.


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08 Mar 2023, 4:36 am

I'm sorry but this thread has served it's purpose and has now arrived at a smelly swamp with far too many off topic comments, thus locked


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